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No in fact I can tell you these practices are used by some of the very best TOP Marketers online today. If you been around and know tech like you say you do. You should even know. Amazon S3 is the most pure and secure way of flowing both video and vault for downloading files when configured with the right plugins.

Simple download and video plugins that work with Amazon S3 Vault. Many to choose from that you can add to any membership site. More control this way and many have options to block so they can only be downloaded or accessed from within the site. By the way if there is a working membership site that does not take 6 months to get set up this becomes a breeze now does it now..!

Here is another example of how membership plugin documentation should be handled. Don’t have hours and hours to spend on searching through a birds nest and tons of crap have a business to build.. Really don’t have time for this Bye…!

https://www.tipsandtricks-hq.com/forum/topic/membership-upgrade-renewal-and-cancellation

That is the is another sad response that nobody from S2member even here to support and on top of that they pointed all their support including pai d version here. So here is my new Matrix I am going to provide as an alternative to this kind of community that I have been reviewing in my current pick order.

1. https://membermouse.com

2. https://www.paidmembershipspro.com

3. https://www.tipsandtricks-hq.com/wordpress-emember-easy-to-use-wordpress-membership-plugin-1706

https://member.wishlistproducts.com

4. https://www.s2member.com

This plugin now eliminated from my selection…

Goodbye ??

In all honesty is it fair to sell features as if they are value. If the features do not work but on certain payment systems? This is exactly why I am asking these kind of questions don’t ya think?

What makes this plugin different then most WP plugins and I have over 15 years working online. I get it..! I actually get it more than most and I know first hand how major mistakes are made. But this plugin has the use of multiple payment processors like most membership products do.

https://membermouse.com/ your competitor however does a much better job at organizing documents to make the research process far more easier and better to understand.

While I get there is a FREE open source version and a paid upgrade version of your site. The reality is your slacking BIG TIME in the area of organization on the S2member site. Then transferring over to these horrible way behind times WP threads for all your support when you once had I am sure a much better forum product over on your site was a huge mistake in my opinion making it that much harder to conduct this kind of research.

Membermouse still does not offer grid like simple feature matrix based on payment provider chose as I am suggesting.

However, I totally get that would probably take all of 1 day’s work if you know your product to complete to make it easier for people trying to figure out these basic things. Then time could be spent better on chancing real support issues. But who cares about being proactive.

I also think I am seriously thinking of eliminating S2member from my list because your documentation is a flipping mess and I really do not like the response I just got. I have a history of building success online for many years. You can look me up Mr Gary Archer..!

I am simply making some simple constructive criticism because you probably do not like answering all these simple questions you probably don’t know the answers too.

What I am suggestion is not a joke its a simple matrix like you have with features letting person know what ones work and do not work with what payment providers.

I think a simple matrix also showing what providers provide easy member upgrade or down grade options is also not to much to ask for. Well unless you like asking forum based questions over and over and over again.

I am assuming this is not possible?

I have been back and forth on this forum and also looking at a couple of other membership products. Trying to finalize what way I am going to go soon.

The challenge I see with all the membership products out there is there are pros and cons with all of them things like depending on what payment processor you go with certain features work or do not work.

What really needs to be done IMO is each membership product should instead of providing a list of features should also provide an advanced grid of features showing what features work or do not work depending on the payment provider and type of payment form integration are used. This would probably save a lot of support questions.

The challenge I see is the average person does not know how to think through and ask the right kind of questions then find themselves down the road in a spot they didn’t want to be.

For example I want to build a site that is going to scale with thousands of members and not deal with support of every time a member wants to upgrade or cancel. Having built sites with 20K people a day I know first hand not thinking through this kind of stuff can be a major problem down the road.

I really hate asking so many questions but the reality is I have now spent over a week just trying to search and ask questions and understand what is and is not going to work based on a model I want to create. I have also tweaked and done some rethinking of this model based on what I have learned and tested here and other places as well.

There are some other what I feel much stronger easier to use products. But cost is way out there and scales as you grow and also do not seem to have Buddypress covered as well. S2member I think is at the top. But I am not convinced just yet until I finish some additional questions. Hope you all understand.

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This must be the page your talking about https://www.s2member.com/kb/customizing-your-lwp/

Will have a look

I might add on a $7.95 per month membership cost.

Between Paypal and JVZoo they will get about $1 for fees

Clickbank will keep about $1.60 for fees

If I was doing a sell only with Paypal fees would only be $.53

Ideal situation here would be if you had a plugin or way to have onsite default payment provider to be Paypal. Then if an affiliate brought the traffic if they buy today or sometime in the future based on cookie time a different payment page would show providing either Paypal or Clickbank. This would save about $1000 a month in fees per every 1000 members that are non affiliate traffic were just giving clickbak for no reason.

If you really wanted to make it more powerful you could have a different payment options page show based on onsite originated Paypal or Affiliate Service Providers like Clickbank, JVJoo, warriorplus to maximize the marketing efforts of a given membership community.

The key here however is making sure it would be designed to treat the affiliate fairly.

Perfect..!

Thanks..!

Thanks I understand about what your saying about JVzoo

I am looking at this closer I dig deeper into this and realize I think I want to use JVZoo to help with the affiliate side of things.

This video below shows an integration method for S2Member and JVZoo
https://youtu.be/wEYMj5PYhok

However, not sure will I still be able to handle allowing members to offer Free and two different paid membership levels as well as offer ability for member to upgrade from within my site and Paypal is updated as well as membership level without the hassle of having to do this manually?

Also, is there an easy way for a member to cancel and downgrade their membership back to Free without me manually having to do.

In addition is there any way to have different welcome pages for each first time member as well as different membership levels?

Thanks

That is a great idea… Thanks..!