vintagepretty

OK. Let’s try this one more time, now. I think this will work. Please someone try it out and see. Thanks.
pic: https://www.persistentillusion.com/new-pic-post.jpg
files: https://www.persistentillusion.com/wp-2-5-show-draft-title.zip
As always, please backup first and use at your own risk.

It’s brilliant! That now makes WP 2.5 far more useful to me – who was it who said that this forum wasn’t useful?!?!?!

Jabecker – is there any way we can publish this for those folks who are desperate to resolve their problems with 2.5 – is there anyone here who knows how to make an admin-plugin, this would be an ideal candidate.

Thanks again!

I’ve incorporated some of the other changes from eric23, Sapphire, vintagepretty and Mr. vintagepretty and added the “drafts” link back to the Write Post and Write Page panels because that was bugging me, too.

Here is a pic: https://persistentillusion.com/new-page.jpg

Here are the files: https://persistentillusion.com/wp-admin-fix.zip

All the files go in the wp-admin folder. Y’all know the drill. ??

jabecker – do you have any ideas as to how we can get the old-style drafts back at the top, i.e. their names so we don’t have to go to the individual drafts page to find the one we want? That was a great idea and was used lots by myself. (Mr. VP’s plan is to find which bit of 2.3.x it was that did that and try to put it back – but as yet no luck, any ideas?).

Brill bit of patching btw ??

Ten minutes of fiddling by my husband and we’ve got a patch incorporating all the previous work from Sapphire, eric23, jabecker etc.

We’ve (or should I say he) moved the post-author into the sidebar to save unnecessary scrolling and have corrected the page-width issue which I know has irritated quite a few (it now fits the screen as opposed to being a set size). My husband is now working to try and get the drafts at the top, but he thinks this would be a lot harder so there are no promises.

If you want to have a look-see, there is a screenshot here and a link to the file here.

I hope that works for everyone – but no promises.

Technical note:
The wp-admin page has had the “Post Author” chunk pretty much cut and pasted into the sidebar.

For the width fix, the max-width property in global.css/.wrap has been commented out, which previously was limiting the page width to a nice 97 style 980px… mmm

@ StrangeAttractor:

2) Since the major revelation of this thread is that this forum is a useless place to discuss concerns like the one I mention above, should we as end-users bring these issues to the mailing lists, or will that be seen as an unwelcome invasion by “non-contributors”?

I agree completely!

As an end-user but not a coder or a designer I feel that me joining any sort of wp-hacks or official coding mailing lists wouldn’t be wanted or even advised. I as a non-coder wouldn’t be wanted on those lists because it’s like going to a party when you’re not invited!

The mailing-list page gives a summary of those groups and they all seem far too serious for someone who really wants changes but doesn’t know how to code or implement them:

“The wp-hackers list is meant for people interested in extending WordPress either through plugins or improvements to the core code. Serious discussion that determines the future direction of the WordPress codebase takes place here.”

I.e. don’t join if you don’t know what you’re doing!

I’m not into who’s saying what about whom, I’d just like a fix/ patch for this “problem”. Sapphire, jabecker, eric23 etc have done wonders in making patches that are fixing problems one by one. So this conversation isn’t pointless, even if it’s not reaching WP-HQ.

Not to be pedantic, but why is this called the “requests and feedback” forum if no one in a position to honor requests or implement feedback reads it? Every other developer forum I visit DOES have sections for people to tell developers what they think.

Maybe the name should be changed to “Users helping each other” or something, because I think it was completely logical that we all assumed this the “requests and feedback” forum was the place where we should give feedback and make requests. ??

I completely agree with you Sapphire and all the other readers. Not everyone on this forum knows how to use PHP or CSS – some of us are **just bloggers** who are having to deal with a new system that no longer works in a way that is as functional as it used to.

This particular area of the forum is called “Requests and Feedback” and should be a place where devs read the comments, surely.

And yes, it is a free bit of software, but programmers are told to make programs that people want to use, not counter-intuitive, difficult-to-use ones.

When it comes to complaints, criticisms and bugs, I’ve found it rather difficult to find ways of sending my thoughts to WP. I have Kvetch’d, but I can’t leave a TRAC ticket when another has already been left by someone else on the same matter.

I’ve used 2.5 for the last couple of weeks now and I’m finding it’s taken the joy out of blogging with this bit of software. If I knew there was something better, other than Blogger out there, I would already have changed over by now until WP has changed their GUI.

It’s still annoying me beyond belief that none of our problems are getting “noticed” or at least commented-on by those In The Know. There are loads of us voicing very real concerns, with some even reverting back to 2.3.3, doesn’t this warrant some kind of reply? Someone to alay our fears about never getting full functionality of WP back?!

Does anyone know of an email address/ way of actually “talking” to someone “important”?

I did a bit of CSS-fu to move the categories. I added this to the bottom of global.css:

#categorydiv { float: right; clear: right; width: 220px; position: relative; right: -250px; top: -520px; z-index: 10; background: #fff; }
#tagsdiv, #category-tabs, #category-adder { display: none; }
#categories-all { height: 20em; margin-left: 0; border: none; }

Unfortunately that covers up the Related list, but I can’t bring myself to care. It also turns off the tags panel (as I mentioned, I don’t use those). And I wouldn’t count on it working in IE.

It’s a stopgap at best.

I’m not sure if I’m doing it right or not but I stuck that at the bottom of global.css (with my incredibly basic knowledge of where these files reside on my server), uploaded the new version and nothing happened. Was I supposed to use the curly-brackets to surround the code?

I’ve just sent a note in to the Kvetch page, in case that does any good at all.

Huzzah! So too have I ?? Whether we get any response is anyone’s guess. Does anyone think it was just an elaborate and rather long-lasting April Fool’s joke? That’s the only reason I can see for it!

It would be nice to think that a WordPress “official” was reading these comments and giving some feedback – or listening to our calls to have a “go back to classic view” option on the backend.

Gods of WordPress – where are you?

I’m going to stick my neck out on this issue and say that it has ruined the whole blogging experience for me. The UI was the best feature of WordPress, it’s the bit that bloggers know and love for being an ace bit of kit.

**But having to click extraneous links to get to draft posts (whereas drafts used to sit nicely at the top of the write page)?

**The menus have been so pared-down that to find anything is now more of a task than ever (the old version wasn’t confusing in the slightest!).

**Width of the Write window leaves a huge gaping hole at the right hand side of the screen (are we still doing 800 x 600, people?!)

**Scrolling for the most basic of options which now no longer drag and drop into place.

**And to top it off, it looks awful.

I tried what Xanathon suggested and installed Fluency, but though better, it still has the same (horrid) essential style as the default 2.5 theme.

I do awfully hope that you didn’t pay these folks at Happy Cog, because I believe a three year old could’ve done a better (and more useful) job.

I don’t usually say anything on these sorts of issues, contentious as they are – but I couldn’t let this one go. Please please please make the classic theme available. I left Blogger for you guys (and have been so glad I did!), don’t desert me now!

We’ve got a similar problem, which this doesn’t seem to solve.

Our aim is to keep comments on posts, but not have any commenting on pages (not even a “No Comments Sorry, the comment form is closed at this time.” section at the bottom.)

In the theme we’re using, we’ve tried removing the “<?php comments_template(); // Get wp-comments.php template ?>” line in index.php but this hides comments from everything. Is there something we can put around this to say “if page is a post then show comments else don't?“

(The theme does not have a seperate page.php)