Yes, since those defaults are no longer available for some reason. Baloo 2 can work too, but no matter which one we choose, it seems to be a continued issue with WP. Have to keep having developers update each page and then re-do every time there are updates. I can’t explain it too well from a technical standpoint other than we keep having issues with Baloo and after deactivating all plugins, have found Kirki to be the only thing that is causing this.