mlapl1

Thank you Peter and see my comments on the other message.
I am not quite sure where to place the code that you mention. logically, it would go inside the WP page containing the shortcode.
cheers
andrew

Thank you for both responses Peter. I will look.
I understand the point about the responsive mode but the current structure creates a very large space just for a number (actually the index for my rows). I only need it to be a few numbers wide.

Instead I get a very wide blank space.

Hello again and please forgive my laziness.

Is it possible to access the contents of any column by surrounding it with $$ signs as in $$JS_COLUMN$$ (which you give as an example)?

If so, then I presume one can construct a URL dynamically…

Thanks and sorry for asking so many questions
Andrew

Hello Peter
Actually about 10 minutes before you answered I stumbled on the dynamic hyperlinks as a possible solution. Thanks for confirming it. I will look at the examples. Actually, I am trying to play a small component of a large audio/video file, so that I can dynamically set starting and ending points instead of making lots of clips. I have finally managed to figure out how to do this in JS so as to stay within the simplicity of (I think) of HTML5. It just requires a few lines of JS. Alternatively, I could send the start-stop parameters to an external file (probably a better more elegant solution but then I have to protect it too – which is ok but protecting the audio/video seems more difficult – maybe .htaccess). As you can see I am not very experienced but I think that there are solutions for this and your plugin is just so versatile.

Thank you!!! Thank you!!!
Andrew

Dear Chris

My turn to apologize for the delay in getting back to you. I have been very busy and this posting does not reliably inform e of new responses so I have to monitor it manually.

Thank you for the information. In relation to the first part of your response, I will look at it later.

As for the second part, you say:
If I configure to always start new attempts I get an attempt for every time I start the module.

Well… what happens to me consistently – <u>and on totally different servers</u>, is that I get TWO entries (both in your report and the database): one on entry into the module which is only partially filled and one on completion of the module which appears fully completed. It has been such a long time that I believe I sent you an Articulate 3 module. I also use Lectora and the behaviour seems similar. I am happy to send you Lectora modules if that is helpful. Also, for what it’s worth, typically I use SCORM to track progress, not to keep scores – that may happen later as we do different kinds of activities.

No need to hurry on my account, this is a long-term project for me.

Thank you and all the best
Andrew

OK. Thanks Peter – good information. I will investigate the templates. It sounds like a template can work a bit as a form and enable editing of information (which is what I want in the context that I am working on at the moment).

Hello and thank you Peter.
I was actually wondering whether users could change their own data. I think I understand about users VIEWING their own data, but changing it is a different story.

Cheers
Andrew

Thank you @enversonbay – yes I know the E-learning heroes very well – I was just wondering about the Cluevo functionality = that’s good news

Thank you once again
Andrew

Summary. On the new platform:
Articulate seems to work correctly when Module settings give a choice of where to start
Articulate does not work correctly when Module settings force new attempts (creates 2 rows)

Lectora does not work correctly when Module settings give a choice (only one entry no matter how many attempts)
Lectora does not work correctly when Module settings force new attempts (produces two entries).

Maybe Lectora settings need to be tweaked but the duplicate rows in mysql seem to occur with both Articulate and Lectora when Module is set to force new attempts.
Well… that narrows it down a bit I guess.
Best regards
Andrew

The duplication persists with Articulate-produced modules and also ma module produced by Adapt Learning.

Now… I have tried the Articulate module on a completely different server. When I set Module Settings to “Let user decide etc…” it works well when the user chooses to start from beginning and adds a new attempt. When user chooses to continue, it does not add a new attempt – it may change the last entry – I cannot test that with this module.

When the Module setting is “Always start new attempts” then it creates two entries and completes the second one. I have not tested the Lectora files on this server.

PHP is also 7.4

Thanks for your help
Andrew

• This reply was modified 3 years, 10 months ago by mlapl1.

Hello again.
I am happy to send you the test modules. I have made them available through pcloud.com (expires in about 24 hours)

https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZQVLeXZYkM06gENo7SPTXrhjQjL4SWClgyX and
https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZl0LeXZz1eYMTyFqu8BoqFbOppQyRAaFHV7

These are Lectora-produced files.

Thank you
Andrew

Hello again
I have created two minimalistic SCORM 1.2 modules.
Both consists of a front page displaying text and a Next button
A second page displaying text and an exit button. The exit buttons sets the SCORM variable AICC_Score o 100 and AICC_Lesson_Status to completed. It then sends an exit/close signal to the LMS or website.

Both modules are written in Lectora18. The only difference between the modules is that one is set to give the choice to continue from where a student has stopped.

When I set the module setting in cluevo to “Let user decide whether to resume or start a new attempt” a row is added to the cluevo Progression – attempt #0
If I run the lesson with Lectora 18 set to give a choice of whether or not to start, a Lectora message will appear (not the cluevo message that I have seen before). If I choose to start from the beginning, attempt 0 is modified but no additional attempt is recorded.

If I use the CLuevo setting: Always start new attempts, then two rows are produced as I described previously. I am happy to share these modules, but have no idea of how you would like me to send them to you. Please advise.

Best wishes
Andrew

Hello again

Thanks for the response. I am happy to share my modules. I may need a day or two to get things ready – if I send you what I amusing it may seem confusing. I will prepare a range of simple modules, basically compiled in SCORM 1.2 and 2004 (4th edition) and also with the “Let user decide whether to resume or start a new attempt” option switched on and off in the authoring system. I typically use Lectora 17 or 18 and Articulate 3. I have experienced the problems no matter which authoring system I use. I have not tried to empty the database and start again.

I have not followed up the “Let user decide whether to resume or start a new attempt” option as thoroughly as the “Always start new attempts” option.

Please let me know how to get the zip files to you etc. I am also happy to give you access to my test site as admin.

The problem seems to appear no matter how simple the SCORM file is. I have tried using just a 2-page empty file properly configured to SCORM and the problem is still there. As I said previously, the two rows appear as soon as the file is loaded and the scores etc are changed as soon as the variables are changed inside the module. In ther words, the rows seem to be created initially independently of the contents of the module. The system does not wait for the close/exit signal to be sent by the module.

Best to you and thanks again. Your help is very much appreciated.
Andrew

Hello again

Thanks for the response. I am happy to share my modules. I may need a day or two to get things ready – if I send you what I amusing it may seem confusing. I will prepare a range of simple modules, basically compiled in SCORM 1.2 and 2004 (4th edition) and also with the “Let user decide whether to resume or start a new attempt” option switched on and off in the authoring system. I typically use Lectora 17 or 18 and Articulate 3. I have experienced the problems no matter which authoring system I use. I have not tried to empty the database and start again.

I have not followed up the “Let user decide whether to resume or start a new attempt” option as thoroughly as the “Always start new attempts” option.

Please let me know how to get the zip files to you etc. I am also happy to give you access to my test site as admin.

Best to you
Andrew

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• This reply was modified 3 years, 10 months ago by mlapl1.

Hello again. I have disabled the extensions and upgraded to PHP 7.4.16. The problem continues. As I said, I have tested this on two different sites but same physical server.

I have a picture of the progression screen showing an example of two rows generated but there is no simple way to attach it here.

Thank you
Andrew