Jon Schroeder

“First of all I do love the idea, but I think usability is quite small in current stage.”
The usability does exactly what the plugin description says. It generates, automatically, a sidebar comprised of the page’s relatives, and displays it on the page. It also adds custom styling to the sidebar, and adds javascript to detect where we are on the page and add a fixed class if we’re scrolling. If any of that is what you’re wanting, then I think this will save you quite a bit of time trying to set up this functionality yourself. If you’re wanting something else, then no, this doesn’t offer much functionality other than the things it does do.

If you’re looking for this sort of list as a widget, then I’d highly recommend Bill Erickson’s Subpages Widget, which sounds like it might do the things you’re wanting as well.

This plugin doesn’t add a widget because on most of my sites, I’d prefer to install the plugin, then be done (if you’re doing it in a widget, you have to pick which pages that widget appears on). I may add a widget implementation in a future version of the plugin, but I haven’t felt the need thus far. Here’s an example of a site using this plugin which has everything set up correctly, using the default styles (with some colors added by the theme), and removing the primary sidebar: https://parentingjourney.org/parents/.

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To answer your questions…

Disable subpage sidebar creation? This setting disables the plugin.
This is self-explanatory. This disables the entire plugin

Styling & Behavior

– Disable the default styles from this plugin?
If you check this box, then it will disable the styles added by the plugin, leaving you with a simple unstyled unordered list

– Disable menu scrolling? If scrolling is enabled, the primary menu is automatically removed.
If you check this box to disable menu scrolling, then the primary widget area will display below it, unless….

– Remove the primary menu?
This setting doesn’t do anything unless the option immediately above is checked. There are some people who don’t want the subpage sidebar to scroll, but who also don’t want the primary menu to appear below it. This option is for those people.

Thanks for the feedback, Karmarz. Some responses below:

option to still use normal sidebar (other widgets) in addition to this
You can, actually. If you look at the settings for the plugin, this should be easy to do.

styling issue when pages tree goes deeper than 2 levels – I mean for a child page of a child page of parent page
The issue with this is that different users would have different uses for that next level. Do we display all of them in a tree, or do we use the current page as the parent?

However, in the settings, you can disable all styling then style this yourself however you’d like!

Also, would be nice for your plugin to have in mind styling adjustments when different layout is used, for example sidebar-content-sidebar ??
In the settings, you can disable all styling. This plugin’s stylings have been tested on the sidebar-content and content-sidebar layouts, as those are the two most widely used. There are a lot more use cases when we add a second sidebar into the mix, so I figured that for those uses, users could style it however they’d like by just disabling the build-in styles.

If you would like to submit styles for this plugin, I’d consider them as options as well.

Best of luck, and if you’d like to send a link, I’d love to see if there are any other specific issues you’re running into that could be fixed directly!

Sounds like he doesn’t force autoloading then. I’m on php 5.3.27

Thanks for your help; it’s much appreciated! I’m comfortable updating on the remainder of my sites, now – yours is one of the plugins I now install on every site I build. Thanks so much for your good work!

Do you mean deleting the files and downloading them again from the repo? I haven’t done that – until right now. I started to delete the files, then realized that for some reason, I also have Google Analyticator installed.

I deactivated that, and it immediately fixed itself. My guess is that if you added any functions in the last update, one of them is using the same name as a function used by Google Analyticator. A very unlikely problem, but possible at least.

In any event, the two plugins are quite similar, so no one should have the two both installed (I like yours better) – but it appears there’s a conflict.

No errors in that one since May, and none related to this plugin. Sorry; wish I could be more helpful here!

My main error log doesn’t show any errors related to this plugin at all, actually. I’m getting one error that repeats, but it looks like it’s related to the stripe plugin I use to process payments on the site (glad to see that, I’ll have to look into it).

Here’s a gist of the log, but I don’t think it will be helpful: https://gist.github.com/redfishbluefishmedia/3330a29fd30cd761994b

Hmm. Actually, the three subpages are appearing; however, the General settings page is not.

Unfortunately, those pages aren’t loading for me either. Is there a file where that’s stored on the server?

Screenshot below:

https://grab.by/yRru

Sounds good. You’ll probably notice some new features as well; I pushed an update about 24 hours ago which allows for you to add contact information as well.

Marking this as resolved, as I haven’t heard back.

Maybe one more thing, too. I’d love for this setting to be a content area. Here’s a sample of a site where there’s a relatively simple footer, but where a content area (rather than an input) would still be easier to use.

https://vinyl.redblue.us/

Try taking out the displayposition altogether and see if that helps. It should be on by default without specifying.

If you’ll reply with a link to the site, that might be helpful as well; that would help me check a couple other possibilities.

I see what you mean; a bit of CSS would probably fix it. The reason you’re seeing this issue is actually that the plugin doesn’t use a background color on the .title-meta when the screen is below a certain width; your implementation appears to.

I think this would probably fix it:

@media( max-width:767px ) { body.page-id-47 .title-meta { background-color:transparent; } }

Sorry about the late response! Hopefully this helps. Please note that I’m planning on adding some new features relatively soon, including the ability to add an email address and facebook/twitter links to a staff member, and an option in the shortcode to unlink the position (some people would prefer that it not be there).

Let me know if that fixes your issue!

BTW, having font color/size is a TERRIBLE idea for core, because it means that the theme is no longer in control of styles; the post is. This would get abused to hell immediately.