Jon

@devnihil @priscillamc

Hello, here is some update:

1) I installed the ESR 90.9 version again using:

https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/60.9.0esr/win32/nl/

I made sure it does not auto-update as that will remove the /feed option.

I did my test again by installing WordPress on localhost using Xampp.

After login to WP Dashboard I import all my options again from all my default plugins

(Plugins are unpacked by my WP Builder for Xampp)

8 Plugin options are Imported to the database

Now, update all plugins and let it finish

Go to plugins and activate all

Close some notices

Visit website and make sure there is at least 1 demo blog post

Hit publish

Visit the blog, all looks good

Back to WP Dashboard and press Yoast message to update/optimize

After 2 seconds the popup by Firefox exits out and on Yoast section for optimizing says it failed

Try again later

Press Count Links

Same problem. It shows the modal for 2 seconds and exits out with the same error, even on the Yoast Tools (wpseo_tools) / Extra section

Wait sometime, open the site and do some scrolling and try again

Make sure WP Cache is disabled

Make sure Autoptimize is not setup

Try again, same errors

2) Update Firefox to the latest version

(Problem is gone)

3) Do the above using Chrome latest version

(Problem is gone)

4) Use my Blisk Development Browser based on Chrome

(No problem, see screenshots below)

https://ibb.co/kSK1qDS

https://ibb.co/StwxCm7

I hope this information helps

Regard, Jon

@priscillamc I will get back to you as soon as I have more time free and my servers are updated.
Have a good weekend,
Jon

@priscillamc Thanks for the reply, I will dig into this and will report you what is going on. I need some more time but will get back to you.
Have a great weekend,
Jon

@otto42

I’ve done this for 16 years, and know people at the search engine companies. You’re wrong. Simple as that.

Thanks for being so friendly as a WordPress moderator, do you realize that I took my time to follow-up on this post to help everyone else? I have no interest going in discussion with you about SEO.

I will not give you any more links on the net were I can prove the URL is of vital importance as we have a totally different mindset and it is not worth my time going into a discussion with you about this. I know I am 100% correct and you should just accept this from me.

Of course there is more to SEO than the URL of your article. But if you think that it does have no effect what words to put there than ask Yoast why he puts a notice on Permalink section in WordPress to not change it. Just send a message to @devnihil

We both have a different opinion. I just wanted to help and put my time into it to tell anyone following this post why the Permalink in the Gutenberg editor has moved and what the future plans are going to be. I could also just have left this open but for people following they now know why it was changed because I took my time to respond and follow-up on this.

Thanks for reading this and have a great day.
Regards, Jon

• This reply was modified 4 years, 1 month ago by Jon.

@otto42

See number #3 for keywords in URL
https://moz.com/blog/15-seo-best-practices-for-structuring-urls

One more:
https://www.searchenginejournal.com/technical-seo/url-structure/

I have studied this for 12 years, trust me on this advice.

Regards.

@twissell You do that in Yoast SEO settings. You should be able to exclude it. Have a look at Post Types or Taxonomies.
See this article: https://makeawebsitehub.com/how-to-set-up-yoast-seo/
Have Google re-visit your site/URL and remove the error. If the error stays for long have Google remove that URL from index (Google – Remove URL from Google)
Good luck.

@priscillamc Thanks for your reply.

I will help and do some more tests on my server and will debug it for your team.

If it does get very technical I will post it to GitHub (I have an account)

Will let you know soon.

Regards, Jon

Thanks @fierevere ! Good to know.

@gioni You are totally correct that it is a normal common attribute/tag for JavaScript same goes for style-sheet that used to have type=”text/css” and always the W3 validation got back no errors.

But since about 3 months it let’s people that run these W3 CSS / HTML tests know that this code is deprecated and not needed anymore.

But if we use a compressor like Autoptimize or even WP Rocket it will not find this tag as all JavaScript and CSS have been compressed in 1 file.

But if you leave as is and do not use any minification than it will report that as a element that is not needed anymore.

They should add this to the help section of the W3 docs, it says there to add it indeed.

Anyway, thanks for having a look at it!

@gioni Thanks for your reply, I did not get a email notice but I see it now so thanks a lot.

I know that it is not of importance for having valid code but it is nice to have the W3 test say the document has no problems.

A lot of theme developers have also removed the (Type=) tags from their themes and plugins, if ever W3 validation becomes a Google factor we have it 100% valid now.

E.g for GeneratePress we can use the following:

if ( remove_type_is == ‘yes’ ) {
add_action( ‘after_setup_theme’, function() {
add_theme_support( ‘html5’, [ ‘script’, ‘style’ ] );
}
);
}

That will remove any HTML tag named, (type=) for style-sheet and also JavaScript.

The reason it did not remove it from your great plugin is because I use a child-theme.

If I use this code in a separate plugin that loads global site settings it will catch it and of course if we use compression like autoptimize it may also be removed.

But for people not using this code or not using any JS compression, I just wanted to let you know that you could consider in a future update to remove that part of the link/code.

For the rest I love your plugin and even consider getting the pro version. It is that good! Thanks for making it, I know how much time it takes to make something like this, trust me.

I will leave the images in my ibb-co account for you and will remove than when the update has been done.

Thanks!

Dit the plugin owner have a look at this or sees this as Important, if not I can remove it as it might not be of importance.

I just wanted to help and found this in the database to make sure it does not add any problems in updates.

Hello all,

To all reading this, I made a comment on the Git page for Gutenberg about it and they will take it into account.

There really was never a Permalink Block, it was just hard-coded into the Editor just like with Classic Editor plugin.

The reason they removed it is not to make life harder but they like to make it like a Page Builder and may have done this for the future of WordPress front editing option, just like with Elementor.

But the main developer does realize that this is not a good workflow and the point I made about the side document settings options in Gutenberg editor being to narrow and also to easy to skip, they did agree.

So yes, they agree, Permalink is just as important as the Main Title of your article.

(Remember, if you change the permalink after you publish your post it might take weeks, yes WEEKS until Google will take that new URL into it’s database and index)

So, always make sure NOT to forget the keywords you want to rank for in this Permalink place and have it good before pressing Publish.

But they are working on it, for now we need to live with this but maybe not for long. They already separate it into a new box you can use. Use that box/place and add your article keywords you want to rank for there.

Do NOT forget it!

They will add Permalink into a new section in the future so it will be visible in front of your eyes when creating your article and then you do not have to scroll down to the little place in Gutenberg options like it currently is.

Hope this update helps.

Hello @gioni Thanks for the reply. I will give the link to a screenshot I made after new WP setup below. I also found 1 more little HTML Validation warning in the JavaScript code added to every page on the site. I will show you the screenshot below.

This -> When you run HTML W3 test and copy source code to the text area and press run/check I have managed to remove all <type=> tags from inline code for stylesheet as well as JavaScript but when I active WP Cerber it adds 1 line back in ever page for JavaScript. I think if you remove that “type=” from the code, the warning is gone and HTML is 100% perfect.

Here is the image you asked for about users in backend:
https://ibb.co/yfLzq8h

Here is a screenshot from W3 HTML Warning:
https://ibb.co/n6QCVTC

It is referring in the source to:
https://ibb.co/74K1YBd

For security reasons I have removed the hidden field random numbers, but I think you know where you can find this JavaScript code on every page at the end (If not using compression)

If you need for this item a new topic, I will make it. If not and this is enough info than happy I could help.

@jnashhawkins Thanks for the reply and that part about Yoast was not relevant and I should not have add it to the post here.

You have any idea who to contact or what part of the forum I need to use to ask a developer how I could add back URL Permalink Block above Title Block?

I which I could send Matt an email as this should be back in Gutenberg.

The settings for the document under Permalink is to small to show the Whole Permalink URL.

This is really the only thing that frustrates me for the rest I love WordPress.

Do I need to have a git account? To get in contact with them or if you know some JavaScript Block code that was using as permalink in the previous version maybe I can program it back in using my own PHP code.

Have a great weekend.

@jnashhawkins Thank you for the reply but I prefer not to downgrade to be real, I was just getting used to Gutenberg as I wanted to love it so bad. I also will not complain on WP forum or give it 1 star as that does not help any developer in my opinion.

But I do hope the team could take a look at this as having the permalink popup when you used to click the mouse above the Titel in Gutenberg was really good as workflow.
Maybe they could change it back that would be great if possible.

Also did not know why Yoast seems to think I do not like WP and shortens it to just my last past of this post that I wanted to go back to simple HTML.

Well, I do not want to go back as I still love WP as anyone else here I just have a hard time when they change something that is very important part of the article (The Permalink)

@nicove Yeah we have to get used to changes but primary things should not really change in my opinion. It is like e.g. removing the Title tag so we can just start writing.

It would seem nice as you can begin writing and not worry about the Title of the article but like the Permalink, the Title is also very important and yeah it was good before 5.5 I started to get used to Gutenberg, now not so much.

No idea about sitemaps, I just still use Yoast for that and check all manually before I ever submit anything to Google SC.

And for userid.

You have to learn MySQL, it is not that hard if you put time into it.
I think you can change display_name to something else but maybe this also works in backend of WP to change your display name.

I always make sure my login name is NOT the same as author name and if I could recommend one thing to WP team is that maybe make a new field when installing to have a username and different author name. Hackers still need you password but having a different author name in the URL is better than then one you login with.

Anyway, hope they will change the Permalink option be back like it was before 5.5 as that would really be a better experience and also that no one forgets to make sure the permalink / post URL is correct and has the keywords you want for the article.

Have a great weekend.

Thanks!