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There is no product, this is free open source software. No-one cares if you use it or not. Also I wrote none of Gutenberg and am not a core contributor, not sure where you got the impression that I was.

Two columns of text don’t make the story any more compelling to read.

Point taken, the core columns block sucks so badly I’m not sure why they included it at all. Thing is there’s a surplus of good block plugins out there that all overcome this issue (CoBlocks, Atomic Blocks etc). They all have a container block and columns. I even have an in-house columns block I’ve made that outputs only bootstrap classes, no extra styling whatsoever. It can do all breakpoints and any width that normal bootstrap can, in any combination. No page builder can do that.

Different CSS for each “block” of text doesn’t mean it’s the New York Times.

I can’t think what you could be getting at here, the point doesn’t make much sense to me. CSS isn’t ‘different’ for each block, it’s all in one file? It’s too big, granted. You can very easily remove the core block styles though, leaving 0 CSS footprint. Also why choose the New York Times? Their design is so simple it would be trivial to recreate.

What does run a business is the ability to produce content quickly and efficiently (using VA’s if needed)

I work faster in Gutenberg than other page builders by a long shot. I’m sure people’s mileage will vary of course, I’ve just never used a page builder that doesn’t have similar niggles AND run much more slowly. There are a few shortcuts they don’t really signpost that help alot. I’m sure there’ll be good tutorials at some point.

Good for you for making a “developer” friendly editor for WordPress I guess

I agree with the sentiment here. The team absolutely should have waited for the editor to be accessible & have a proper columns block before release, and probably kept it as a plugin for longer. It doesn’t really matter to end users how nice and purdy the editor code is.

In the end, it doesn’t really matter. There’s a (granted, quite smug) part of me that enjoys watching all these stick in the mud developers who resent the implication they should learn something other than PHP just pull random points out of a hat rather than say “it’s new and scary and WordPress was my safe place”. The site admins who got taken by surprise by the new editor, I feel more sympathy for, but since this is 100% free software and it takes all of 5 seconds to remove Gutenberg, I’m still not sure why everyone’s on the band wagon.

If you look under the hood of Gutenberg, you’re simply not correct.

Issues of UX or UI that you may have are subjective, I personally quite like the UI but I can fully appreciate the concerns, especially accessibility.

But, unlike all the other page builders you mention, and all that I am aware of, Gutenberg does not run server-side code on page load, and outputs HTML to the post content without the need for widgets, shortcodes or postmeta. This is a fundamentally superior and more modern mode of operation.

Also, page builders are for people who don’t know how to write HTML. People who do know how to write HTML don’t need page builders.

Gutenberg is miles better for developers thanks to custom block styles and filters for restricting user choice (removing blocks, setting custom color palettes, etc) than any other page builder, and it’s miles better for clients for the same reasons, they’re presented only with the options the developer wanted them to see, and their site is significantly faster for it.

Seriously, remove Visual Composer or Beaver Builder or whatever you use at the moment, put Gutenberg on there, build a page and compare load times before and after. It’s unbelievable how much better it is.

If you think Gutenberg is the old editor ‘dressed up’, then you don’t know the first thing about how it actually works. It’s in a completely different language to the old editor, for a start. Literally every line is different.

BTW, try ClassicPress. It’s probably more up your street and no need for classic editor plugins.

Fair do’s, it’s less combative now ??

Reading these reviews always gets me riled up and I posted this in a flurry of frustration. My apologies