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That did it.
Thank you for the speedy response, and the great plugin!

Thank you.
That did the trick.

Thanks again.
Great plugin.

Over the years I have tried a number of others, but none have the flexibility of this one, and some even interfere with other plugins.
Yours stays within its own computing space and works simply enough to train editors with little fuss.

If there is one change I would make, it is to show the att categories by default on the attachment details popup page – the editors tend to miss it and then wonder why their media isn’t showing where they want it.

I ran the raw shortcode [mla_gallery] again on the 2012 theme and I got the same results that I did when I did it on the 2016.

Since I had different output in 2012 than 2016 yesterday and nothing else changed, there is clearly something wrong with me.
I was careful to test the same shortcode and change only the themes to diagnose the issue, but I must have actually tested two different versions of the shortcode – how I did that I will never know!

Most of what I will be interested in is pdfs, as you deduced, so that would explain why there is nothing showing with all default settings.

Sorry for the confusion, but thank you for straightening me out!

Here is the debug output from the 2012 theme:
520 mla_debug REQUEST = array ( )

521 mla_debug attributes = array ( ‘mla_debug’ => ‘true’, ‘mla_page_parameter’ => ‘mla_paginate_current’, )

522 mla_debug arguments = array ( ‘size’ => ‘thumbnail’, ‘itemtag’ => ‘dl’, ‘icontag’ => ‘dt’, ‘captiontag’ => ‘dd’, ‘columns’ => ‘3’, ‘link’ => ‘permalink’, ‘id’ => NULL, ‘style’ => NULL, ‘type’ => ‘default’, ‘thumb_width’ => 75, ‘thumb_height’ => 75, ‘thumbnail_size’ => ‘thumbnail’, ‘slide_size’ => ‘large’, ‘slideshow_height’ => 500, ‘fx’ => ‘fade’, ‘timeout’ => 4000, ‘speed’ => 1000, ‘pause’ => NULL, ‘mla_output’ => ‘gallery’, ‘mla_style’ => ‘default’, ‘mla_markup’ => ‘default’, ‘mla_float’ => ‘left’, ‘mla_itemwidth’ => ‘calculate’, ‘mla_margin’ => ‘1.5%’, ‘mla_target’ => ”, ‘mla_debug’ => ‘true’, ‘mla_named_transfer’ => false, ‘mla_viewer’ => false, ‘mla_single_thread’ => false, ‘mla_viewer_extensions’ => ‘ai,eps,pdf,ps’, ‘mla_viewer_limit’ => ‘0’, ‘mla_viewer_width’ => ‘0’, ‘mla_viewer_height’ => ‘0’, ‘mla_viewer_best_fit’ => NULL, ‘mla_viewer_page’ => ‘1’, ‘mla_viewer_resolution’ => ‘0’, ‘mla_viewer_quality’ => ‘0’, ‘mla_viewer_type’ => ”, ‘mla_alt_shortcode’ => NULL, ‘mla_alt_ids_name’ => ‘ids’, ‘mla_alt_ids_value’ => NULL, ‘mla_end_size’ => 1, ‘mla_mid_size’ => 2, ‘mla_prev_text’ => ‘? Previous’, ‘mla_next_text’ => ‘Next ?’, ‘mla_paginate_type’ => ‘plain’, ‘mla_paginate_rows’ => NULL, ‘mla_link_attributes’ => ”, ‘mla_link_class’ => ”, ‘mla_link_href’ => ”, ‘mla_link_text’ => ”, ‘mla_nolink_text’ => ”, ‘mla_rollover_text’ => ”, ‘mla_image_class’ => ”, ‘mla_image_alt’ => ”, ‘mla_image_attributes’ => ”, ‘mla_caption’ => ”, )

mla_debug is_archive() = false

mla_debug is_search() = false

mla_debug $wp_filter[posts_where] = Priority: 2147483647 MLAShortcode_Support::mla_shortcode_query_posts_where_filter => MLAShortcode_Support::mla_shortcode_query_posts_where_filter()

mla_debug $wp_filter[posts_orderby] = Priority: 2147483647 MLAShortcode_Support::mla_shortcode_query_posts_orderby_filter => MLAShortcode_Support::mla_shortcode_query_posts_orderby_filter()

mla_debug WHERE filter = ‘ AND wp_posts.post_parent = 465 AND (wp_posts.post_mime_type LIKE \’image/%\’) AND wp_posts.post_type = \’attachment\’ AND ((wp_posts.post_status = \’inherit\’))’

mla_debug modified WHERE filter = ‘ AND wp_posts.post_parent = 465 AND (wp_posts.post_mime_type LIKE \’image/%\’) AND wp_posts.post_type = \’attachment\’ AND ((wp_posts.post_status = \’inherit\’))’

mla_debug JOIN filter = ”

mla_debug ORDER BY filter, incoming = ‘wp_posts.post_date DESC’
Replacement ORDER BY clause = ‘wp_posts.menu_order ASC, wp_posts.ID ASC’

mla_debug posts_clauses filter = array ( ‘where’ => ‘ AND wp_posts.post_parent = 465 AND (wp_posts.post_mime_type LIKE \’image/%\’) AND wp_posts.post_type = \’attachment\’ AND ((wp_posts.post_status = \’inherit\’))’, ‘groupby’ => ”, ‘join’ => ”, ‘orderby’ => ‘wp_posts.menu_order ASC, wp_posts.ID ASC’, ‘distinct’ => ”, ‘fields’ => ‘wp_posts.*’, ‘limits’ => ”, )

mla_debug posts_clauses_request filter = array ( ‘where’ => ‘ AND wp_posts.post_parent = 465 AND (wp_posts.post_mime_type LIKE \’image/%\’) AND wp_posts.post_type = \’attachment\’ AND ((wp_posts.post_status = \’inherit\’))’, ‘groupby’ => ”, ‘join’ => ”, ‘orderby’ => ‘wp_posts.menu_order ASC, wp_posts.ID ASC’, ‘distinct’ => ”, ‘fields’ => ‘wp_posts.*’, ‘limits’ => ”, )

mla_debug query = array ( ‘post_type’ => array ( 0 => ‘attachment’, ), ‘post_status’ => array ( 0 => ‘inherit’, ), ‘post_mime_type’ => ‘image’, ‘nopaging’ => true, ‘post_parent’ => 465, ‘ignore_sticky_posts’ => true, ‘no_found_rows’ => false, )

mla_debug request = ‘SELECT wp_posts.* FROM wp_posts WHERE 1=1 AND wp_posts.post_parent = 465 AND (wp_posts.post_mime_type LIKE \’image/%\’) AND wp_posts.post_type = \’attachment\’ AND ((wp_posts.post_status = \’inherit\’)) ORDER BY wp_posts.menu_order ASC, wp_posts.ID ASC ‘

mla_debug query_vars = array ( ‘post_type’ => array ( 0 => ‘attachment’, ), ‘post_status’ => array ( 0 => ‘inherit’, ), ‘post_mime_type’ => ‘image’, ‘nopaging’ => true, ‘post_parent’ => 465, ‘ignore_sticky_posts’ => true, ‘no_found_rows’ => false, ‘error’ => ”, ‘m’ => ”, ‘p’ => 0, ‘subpost’ => ”, ‘subpost_id’ => ”, ‘attachment’ => ”, ‘attachment_id’ => 0, ‘name’ => ”, ‘static’ => ”, ‘pagename’ => ”, ‘page_id’ => 0, ‘second’ => ”, ‘minute’ => ”, ‘hour’ => ”, ‘day’ => 0, ‘monthnum’ => 0, ‘year’ => 0, ‘w’ => 0, ‘category_name’ => ”, ‘tag’ => ”, ‘cat’ => ”, ‘tag_id’ => ”, ‘author’ => ”, ‘author_name’ => ”, ‘feed’ => ”, ‘tb’ => ”, ‘paged’ => 0, ‘meta_key’ => ”, ‘meta_value’ => ”, ‘preview’ => ”, ‘s’ => ”, ‘sentence’ => ”, ‘title’ => ”, ‘fields’ => ”, ‘menu_order’ => ”, ’embed’ => ”, ‘category__in’ => array ( ), ‘category__not_in’ => array ( ), ‘category__and’ => array ( ), ‘post__in’ => array ( ), ‘post__not_in’ => array ( ), ‘post_name__in’ => array ( ), ‘tag__in’ => array ( ), ‘tag__not_in’ => array ( ), ‘tag__and’ => array ( ), ‘tag_slug__in’ => array ( ), ‘tag_slug__and’ => array ( ), ‘post_parent__in’ => array ( ), ‘post_parent__not_in’ => array ( ), ‘author__in’ => array ( ), ‘author__not_in’ => array ( ), ‘suppress_filters’ => false, ‘cache_results’ => true, ‘update_post_term_cache’ => true, ‘lazy_load_term_meta’ => true, ‘update_post_meta_cache’ => true, ‘posts_per_page’ => 10, ‘comments_per_page’ => ’50’, ‘order’ => ‘DESC’, )

mla_debug post_count = 0

mla_debug empty gallery, query = array ( ‘mla_debug’ => ‘true’, ‘mla_page_parameter’ => ‘mla_paginate_current’, )

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Thank you for your quick and careful response!

I am getting no output while using the 2016 theme, but I am getting output with the 2012 theme.
I ran the [mla_gallery post_parent=all posts_per_page=10] shortcode in the 2016 theme, and got a series of images – so perhaps there is some problem with how I have set up parent/child relationships.

I ran the debug code and got this output:
520 mla_debug REQUEST = array ( )

521 mla_debug attributes = array ( ‘mla_debug’ => ‘true’, ‘mla_page_parameter’ => ‘mla_paginate_current’, )

522 mla_debug arguments = array ( ‘size’ => ‘thumbnail’, ‘itemtag’ => ‘figure’, ‘icontag’ => ‘div’, ‘captiontag’ => ‘figcaption’, ‘columns’ => ‘3’, ‘link’ => ‘permalink’, ‘id’ => NULL, ‘style’ => NULL, ‘type’ => ‘default’, ‘thumb_width’ => 75, ‘thumb_height’ => 75, ‘thumbnail_size’ => ‘thumbnail’, ‘slide_size’ => ‘large’, ‘slideshow_height’ => 500, ‘fx’ => ‘fade’, ‘timeout’ => 4000, ‘speed’ => 1000, ‘pause’ => NULL, ‘mla_output’ => ‘gallery’, ‘mla_style’ => ‘default’, ‘mla_markup’ => ‘default’, ‘mla_float’ => ‘left’, ‘mla_itemwidth’ => ‘calculate’, ‘mla_margin’ => ‘1.5%’, ‘mla_target’ => ”, ‘mla_debug’ => ‘true’, ‘mla_named_transfer’ => false, ‘mla_viewer’ => false, ‘mla_single_thread’ => false, ‘mla_viewer_extensions’ => ‘ai,eps,pdf,ps’, ‘mla_viewer_limit’ => ‘0’, ‘mla_viewer_width’ => ‘0’, ‘mla_viewer_height’ => ‘0’, ‘mla_viewer_best_fit’ => NULL, ‘mla_viewer_page’ => ‘1’, ‘mla_viewer_resolution’ => ‘0’, ‘mla_viewer_quality’ => ‘0’, ‘mla_viewer_type’ => ”, ‘mla_alt_shortcode’ => NULL, ‘mla_alt_ids_name’ => ‘ids’, ‘mla_alt_ids_value’ => NULL, ‘mla_end_size’ => 1, ‘mla_mid_size’ => 2, ‘mla_prev_text’ => ‘? Previous’, ‘mla_next_text’ => ‘Next ?’, ‘mla_paginate_type’ => ‘plain’, ‘mla_paginate_rows’ => NULL, ‘mla_link_attributes’ => ”, ‘mla_link_class’ => ”, ‘mla_link_href’ => ”, ‘mla_link_text’ => ”, ‘mla_nolink_text’ => ”, ‘mla_rollover_text’ => ”, ‘mla_image_class’ => ”, ‘mla_image_alt’ => ”, ‘mla_image_attributes’ => ”, ‘mla_caption’ => ”, )

mla_debug is_archive() = false

mla_debug is_search() = false

mla_debug $wp_filter[posts_where] = Priority: 2147483647 MLAShortcode_Support::mla_shortcode_query_posts_where_filter => MLAShortcode_Support::mla_shortcode_query_posts_where_filter()

mla_debug $wp_filter[posts_orderby] = Priority: 2147483647 MLAShortcode_Support::mla_shortcode_query_posts_orderby_filter => MLAShortcode_Support::mla_shortcode_query_posts_orderby_filter()

mla_debug WHERE filter = ‘ AND wp_posts.post_parent = 465 AND (wp_posts.post_mime_type LIKE \’image/%\’) AND wp_posts.post_type = \’attachment\’ AND ((wp_posts.post_status = \’inherit\’))’

mla_debug modified WHERE filter = ‘ AND wp_posts.post_parent = 465 AND (wp_posts.post_mime_type LIKE \’image/%\’) AND wp_posts.post_type = \’attachment\’ AND ((wp_posts.post_status = \’inherit\’))’

mla_debug JOIN filter = ”

mla_debug ORDER BY filter, incoming = ‘wp_posts.post_date DESC’
Replacement ORDER BY clause = ‘wp_posts.menu_order ASC, wp_posts.ID ASC’

mla_debug posts_clauses filter = array ( ‘where’ => ‘ AND wp_posts.post_parent = 465 AND (wp_posts.post_mime_type LIKE \’image/%\’) AND wp_posts.post_type = \’attachment\’ AND ((wp_posts.post_status = \’inherit\’))’, ‘groupby’ => ”, ‘join’ => ”, ‘orderby’ => ‘wp_posts.menu_order ASC, wp_posts.ID ASC’, ‘distinct’ => ”, ‘fields’ => ‘wp_posts.*’, ‘limits’ => ”, )

mla_debug posts_clauses_request filter = array ( ‘where’ => ‘ AND wp_posts.post_parent = 465 AND (wp_posts.post_mime_type LIKE \’image/%\’) AND wp_posts.post_type = \’attachment\’ AND ((wp_posts.post_status = \’inherit\’))’, ‘groupby’ => ”, ‘join’ => ”, ‘orderby’ => ‘wp_posts.menu_order ASC, wp_posts.ID ASC’, ‘distinct’ => ”, ‘fields’ => ‘wp_posts.*’, ‘limits’ => ”, )

mla_debug query = array ( ‘post_type’ => array ( 0 => ‘attachment’, ), ‘post_status’ => array ( 0 => ‘inherit’, ), ‘post_mime_type’ => ‘image’, ‘nopaging’ => true, ‘post_parent’ => 465, ‘ignore_sticky_posts’ => true, ‘no_found_rows’ => false, )

mla_debug request = ‘SELECT wp_posts.* FROM wp_posts WHERE 1=1 AND wp_posts.post_parent = 465 AND (wp_posts.post_mime_type LIKE \’image/%\’) AND wp_posts.post_type = \’attachment\’ AND ((wp_posts.post_status = \’inherit\’)) ORDER BY wp_posts.menu_order ASC, wp_posts.ID ASC ‘

mla_debug query_vars = array ( ‘post_type’ => array ( 0 => ‘attachment’, ), ‘post_status’ => array ( 0 => ‘inherit’, ), ‘post_mime_type’ => ‘image’, ‘nopaging’ => true, ‘post_parent’ => 465, ‘ignore_sticky_posts’ => true, ‘no_found_rows’ => false, ‘error’ => ”, ‘m’ => ”, ‘p’ => 0, ‘subpost’ => ”, ‘subpost_id’ => ”, ‘attachment’ => ”, ‘attachment_id’ => 0, ‘name’ => ”, ‘static’ => ”, ‘pagename’ => ”, ‘page_id’ => 0, ‘second’ => ”, ‘minute’ => ”, ‘hour’ => ”, ‘day’ => 0, ‘monthnum’ => 0, ‘year’ => 0, ‘w’ => 0, ‘category_name’ => ”, ‘tag’ => ”, ‘cat’ => ”, ‘tag_id’ => ”, ‘author’ => ”, ‘author_name’ => ”, ‘feed’ => ”, ‘tb’ => ”, ‘paged’ => 0, ‘meta_key’ => ”, ‘meta_value’ => ”, ‘preview’ => ”, ‘s’ => ”, ‘sentence’ => ”, ‘title’ => ”, ‘fields’ => ”, ‘menu_order’ => ”, ’embed’ => ”, ‘category__in’ => array ( ), ‘category__not_in’ => array ( ), ‘category__and’ => array ( ), ‘post__in’ => array ( ), ‘post__not_in’ => array ( ), ‘post_name__in’ => array ( ), ‘tag__in’ => array ( ), ‘tag__not_in’ => array ( ), ‘tag__and’ => array ( ), ‘tag_slug__in’ => array ( ), ‘tag_slug__and’ => array ( ), ‘post_parent__in’ => array ( ), ‘post_parent__not_in’ => array ( ), ‘author__in’ => array ( ), ‘author__not_in’ => array ( ), ‘suppress_filters’ => false, ‘cache_results’ => true, ‘update_post_term_cache’ => true, ‘lazy_load_term_meta’ => true, ‘update_post_meta_cache’ => true, ‘posts_per_page’ => 10, ‘comments_per_page’ => ’50’, ‘order’ => ‘DESC’, )

mla_debug post_count = 0

mla_debug empty gallery, query = array ( ‘mla_debug’ => ‘true’, ‘mla_page_parameter’ => ‘mla_paginate_current’, )

-Kurt

It must have been directly on the plugin site.

It was a long time ago.

On one other occasion, I have reached out to you and you responded with accurate advice, so I have edited my earliest comment.

Thank you for your prompt response.

Some years back I had requested help with a numeric issue that Memphis Docs was causing with eCommerce Templates.
That request went unanswered, which has colored my response.

I don’t know what you are talking about when you say “as I stated to you before”… Perhaps you have me confused with someone else.

Well, one of the clients has a library of pdfs, and word documents. These are training materials and meeting presentations, etc.
They have enough that some sort of document management system would be a real advantage, and MDOCS handles all that easily and keeps it organized and easy for users to locate.

Placing this content in posts outside the library defeats the purpose of having a library.
Unless MDOCS has a way to treat those posts as a document within the library…

Is this possible?

So it is.
Guess it isn’t only the site users that are unsophisticated!