Avrom

Hi Tammie,
Can you please answer AshboDev’s original question?

Why on earth are we adding a new editor, to try and compete with Visual Composer and other page builders?

It’s a valid question. This is what most of us are trying to figure out, since Gutenberg isn’t anywhere close to these editors. Thank you.

That said, the hope is the more and more work happens with Gutenberg, the less the need to ‘turn off’ will be.

Well, since 2/3 users in reviews absolutely detest Gutenberg, its pretty obvious this will be one of many popular plugins to turn this horrible thing off. Most users will have Gutenberg permanently turned-off.

But really, this is all backwards. You now have Gutenberg (which hides and changes MCE), and a layered plugin on top of that to bring back MCE. Does that really make any sense?

• This reply was modified 7 years, 4 months ago by Avrom. Reason: typo, know replaced with now

It already has. We can only assume when 5.0 rolls out, the option to switch off Gutenberg will be limited time.

We have another CMS lined up. But as hapke points out, what do we do with the client’s who are already on WordPress?

While WordPress has been an amazing framework in the past, the future of it as a development framework is now questionable. We have no choice but to be proactive and look for alternatives. How unfortunate.

Tammie,
“Its hard to say…”?

Nobody asked for this or wanted it in the first place.

Well it better be. Because your going to throw years of developers work in the garbage, irritate all their clients, and lose thousands (if not tens of thousands) of users.

Saying there is an option to switch it off, or saying you respect all comments is meaningless. Saying you will do your best to try is not good enough. There is too much at stake.

Get Matt in a meeting, tell him what’s going on, and abandon this foolishness.

I will be telling all my clients not to upgrade to 5.0

And we already have a CMS ready to go to replace WordPress. We cannot simply leave our clients hanging with this ridiculous editor.

Joen,
I’m glad “A Visit from Saint Gutenberg” gave you a good chuckle!

I feel strongly the MCE Editor can remain core, with Gutenberg as an advanced plugin (or option of some type).

Why not keep both? and make everyone happy. This would give you the time to test and refine. If you are reinventing the wheel – it won’t be easy. People like a round wheel for a reason. ??

Joen,
My review stays 1-star. I actually agree with all of Thierry’s points:

• What make WordPress is, is the simplicity and the fact of being able to do everything that one wishes. Why compromise the core and this philosophy?
• If you want to have this builder on WordPress.com, put it in jetpack!
• It’s not a plugin mistake,but a political and philosophy question.

I agree with those points. I would like to see Gutenberg as an external plugin vs. core. Jetpack would be an ideal integration for Gutenburg – good idea!

It seems Matt and team are pushing quickly on this, over a reason that was decided at Automatic. And it is a philosophical reason – even to the extent of ignoring backwards compatibility. This is not good.

The real question in all of this is WHY?

I’m not opposed to change or improvements – I think change can be a good thing if done properly.

I don’t want to be negative like some other reviewers here, nor diminish the efforts of your hard work. But my initial view of Gutenberg is that it is terrible. These points have already been covered many times over:

(1) Plugins disappeared on the back end, and could not be integrated.
(2) Disliked that buttons disappeared while editing and have to go find them.
(3) Takes longer to do anything (and I mean anything). It’s not intuitive.
(4) Custom posts, meta, and shortcodes are critical (not-optional). I believe shortcodes have been covered. But custom post types and meta are critical.
(5) Cut and paste didn’t work, but I think you resolved that.
(6) MCE is easy and quick to use. Unlike Divi or Visual Composer etc. Visual editors should always be optional – not core. At this time Gutenberg resembles a visual editor.
(7) Please understand that many people use WordPress beyond simple blogging, they need some guarantee of backwards compatibility.

Please listen to the community.

Cheers

I agree. Why give it 5-stars then?

• This reply was modified 7 years, 7 months ago by Avrom.

Mel, thank you very much! I appreciate you taking the time to answer.
Cheers

Hi,
Could you add the redirect page on successful submission sooner than later? This would be very useful!

Cheers
Avrom

Yes, I figured this was being overruled by the Woo actions. Thank you for the prompt reply!

Cheers
Avrom

Hi,
Try DIV instead of Class CSS:

#mc_signup_submit

Cheers
Avrom

Hi,
I solved this with CSS, but built-in functionality would be better. ??

.mc_email_format,
.mc_email_options {
display: none;
}

Hi David,

Thanks! You’re absolutely right – Mozilla has a built in pop-up blocker in the address bar (which I hadn’t noticed before).

Cheers
Avrom

Prefect, thanx. ??

Hi,
Can you please answer the question, as the free version is not a commercial product? How many sites can we install with the self-hosted free version?

Please and thank you. ??

Cheers
Avrom