Dave333

I had a look at your blog and saw that you have fixed the problem. Can you please describe how you resolved this as there are many people on the forums asking how to fix this.

Thanks.

No one have any ideas on how I can get permission to delete this plugin?

1. This comment was snide:

You know how we say you should disable all your plugins before upgrading? Yeah, we kinda mean that.

Definition of Snide: derogatory or mocking in an indirect way.

Of course text can be snide. I suggest you think twice before making comments like that.

2. You (wrongly) suggested in the same comment I quoted above that the user is at fault, thus laying blame on the user. You could have asked the user if they disabled their plugins instead of making your own assumptions and then stating them in a mocking way.

3. That point is debatable, the plugins were working perfectly until the 2.7 upgrade. The upgrade to 2.7 broke the site. Again, its the derogatory way in which you went about it that was unhelpful.

Honestly, we can’t test all situations, and we’re really not interested in playing the blame game.

Well, you were blaming users based on your own wrong assumptions of what they did or didn’t do with your snide remarks. You also laid blame on the plugin makers by stating the problem is with the plugins, not with WordPress. So it’s a bit rich to now say you are not interested in playing the blame game.

So, don’t upgrade then. Nobody made you. WordPress is free software. Upgrade, don’t upgrade, switch to something else. It doesn’t affect us any.

OK then, you’ve made it perfectly clear what your position is on this matter.

You know how we say you should disable all your plugins before upgrading? Yeah, we kinda mean that.

What makes you think we didn’t disable all our plugins?

I can’t speak for everyone but I certainy did disable my plugins before upgrading.

Some of us have a lot of plugins. Determining which one 2.7 can’t deal with can be tricky, time consuming and put our sites out of action for some time. As soon as the upgrade was complete I quickly turned them all back on again so the public didn’t see a faulty site.

If a plugin breaks something, then you need to disable or delete it. That’s a problem with a plugin, not with WordPress.

The plugins were built to be, and were, functional with WordPress….as it existed at the time. If WordPress keeps moving the goal posts by chainging the structure of the system, thus breaking the system, then how can you blame the plugin makers?

And if you can’t get to the plugins screen, then FTP to your site and simply delete the plugin directly. That automatically disables it.

As I have mentioned in another string. I FTP’d into my site to delete certian plugins I thought were at fault and was unable to. I was told that I do not have permission to do so. So that’s not a viable solution in every case.

As you can see in these forums alone, many sites were disabled by this upgrade. To point the finger at the users telling us that we didn’t follow instructions is not only an assumption on your part, its not true. And quite frankly the derogatory tone you used to do so is insulting to the user.

Otto42,

You asked:

I don’t know what this means. 2.7 menus don’t disappear at all. You expand them or you don’t.

Certian plugins totally destroyed the side panel making it impossible to do a single thing other than “new post” as that is the only thing not on the side bar. You can’t even access the plug ins page to try to remove the offending plugin (if you even know which one it is). There are many complaints about this, I am surprised you are not aware of this.

Perhaps this is what has happened to ngb, judging from what she wrote.

Lets hope WordPress don’t decide to reinvent the wheel yet again in another few month’s time.

I certainly won’t be upgrading the rest of my blogs to 2.7.

in the custom structure field type this:

%postname%

At least that is what I typed into mine but having just checked it seems that after I upgraded to 2.7 its been changed automatically to this:

/%postname%/

Not sure why the change or what difference it makes but you could try both and se which one works for you.

Otto42, have you tried the plugin ‘Ozh Admin Drop Down Menu’ or the earlier ‘lighter admin drop menus’?

These are both far superior to the 2.7 admin interface. What’s more, they don’t disappear at the drop of a hat!

I suspect you’ll see loads more complaining about 2.7 as more and more people get around to upgrading.

I added the line:

define(‘MAGPIE_CACHE_ON’, false);

as suggested by joelennon and it seemed to work for about five minutes then my Tweets dissappeared again.

Would extending the age help at all? For example:

Changing
define(‘MAGPIE_CACHE_AGE’, 120);

to somethign like:
define(‘MAGPIE_CACHE_AGE’, 240);

I have no idea. But I sure would like to have my tweets back on my blog. I spent hours fixing all the problems created by 2.7 and now it seems I have another day of troubleshooting ahead of me. It’s frustrating for sure.

A nice balanced summary StrangeAttractor.

Yes, thanks constanta. I discovered that ithe address was saved in my browser’s address bar. I also found this replacement for the ‘lighter admin drop down menu’ plugin:

ozh-admin-drop-down-menu

Fixed.

Solution!

Get rid of the nasty new admin panel altogether and replace it with the ‘Admin Drop Down Menu’ that mendezki linked to above. This is the 2.7 alternative to ‘lighter menu’ which was excelent on earlier versions of WordPress.

I have to agree with porrfish1, this interface is a mess!

I installed the lighter menu plugin in the hope to get some functionallity back to the interface. Even though this plugin was not listed in the incompatable plugins list for 2.7 it destroyed 2.7 by completely removeing the admin panel!!!

Now I can’t even access the plugins page to disable that lighter menu plugin.

This would be my wish:

WordPress reverts back to the previous versin but incorporates ‘lighter menu’ plugin. That would be a huge improvement on this horrid and clunky interface of 2.7.

How did you disable it if you have no access to the admin panel?????

Well, I am completely screwed after installing 2.7.

Because the left sidebar has vanished (which contained all the admin buttons) the only option I have is to create a new post (as it is situated on the grey header bar).

I can’t access plugin page, or the rest of the admin section. I have tried Safari, Webkit, Firefox, none of them allow me to access the sidebar.

Why oh why do I bother upgrading when every thing works perfectly.

I wish they’d thoroughly test releases such as this one before releasing them.

Can soneone tell me what the address is for the plugins page so that I can attempt to go there manually and disable all my plugins?

Otherwise I am going to have to go back to the previous verison.