darkstarx

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Mr. Ingram:

In the first place I have made this request through channels other than this forum. I do not care a great deal for GitHub and I am not inclined to use it.

As far as your pseudo-rationale for not supporting font sets other than the almighty google font set I call bullshit. In the first place, if you want to develop a professional website, why are you even tinkering around with WordPress? In the second place, presuming you use 3 or 4 different fonts on a given website, just how much ‘bloat’ is that going to add to a given site? Damn little I’d venture to say. And if it takes my site development tool and extra 5 minutes to load completely before I can begin designing, why am I going to have a fit? The point is that it should be UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL which particular fonts are loaded initially by the program. Finally, if I wanted to be a programmer and learn how to code, I would have studied computer science in college and made a living as a programmer.

I have also tries the Use Any Fonts plugin that you recommended and found it to be wanting.

Good morning to you again @fab1an,

I just looked at your plugin for Font Squirrel. WordPress informs me (and anyone else that looks at your plugin) that your plugin has not been updated in over two years! Considering the changes that have occurred in WordPress as well as Font Squirrel and their API, not to mention any other websites and other dependencies that your plugin may rely on, does not inspire great confidence in your plugin, OR your responsiveness as the developer</em>! Really, monsieur! Even though absolutely everything upon which your plugin relies may remain unchanged from two years ago, do you not see the advantages to revisiting your creation even if it is only to tweak the code a little bit and upgrade the version from 1 to 1.02, or some such?

If you would like to take this discussion private, please feel free to contact me at: [email protected].

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• This reply was modified 8 years, 3 months ago by darkstarx.

Good morning to you @fab1en and thank you for your input. As you probably already know, I am a designer, not a developer. I have tried my hand at development and coding a little bit, but I never found a great love for it that is crucial to become adept at that skill.

I shall give serious consideration to trying your plugin for Font Squirrel. I don’t expect perfection from software that I use, but I do expect a responsive development team that is reasonable patient with non-coding amateurs, such as myself AND at least a reasonably diligent attempt at providing sufficient documentation for the use of the software they create.

I also thank you for the informational links you provided. Let me ask you this: What is your favorite search engine? In this day and age, I sometimes feel that we are becoming far too dependent on Google, even if their corporate motto is “Don’t Be Evil” (and I really question how closely they continue to abide by that worthy phrase). You may count on me reading and bookmarking these links to serve me when needed even though I still prefer that the development team strive for full automation of the font installation and integration process!

I wish you a very pleasant Sunday, sir!

Best regards,

darkstar

I understand and appreciate that Google is my friend. I use it more times in a day than I can remember.

I think you missed my point. Elementor is being developed as a plugin to use in WordPress and a most excellent plugin it is and will continue to develop into, IMHO. However, one of the aspects by which a piece of software lives or dies is the quality of the documentation provided with that software by the development team. In the case of Elementor, the developers chose to go with Google Fonts. There is nothing wrong with Google Fonts, except that it only consists of a measly 809 different fonts, whereas Font Squirrel (my personal favorite free font site) offers up 1100 at last count. I don’t think it is very far fetched that someone like myself who isn’t a coder and has no real aspiration to become one is not going to find exactly the font they want among Google Fonts limited selection and will want to add a different one to their site. Wouldn’t it make sense for the Elementor development team to create a subject of fonts within the plugin’s documentation in which they state that the default font library for Elementor is Google Fonts (as opposed to answering the same question I originally asked over and over again) AND taking the time ONCE to explain the process of implementing your own fonts in the CORRECT and a STEP-WISE manner (which you can never take for granted reading some random post found in a Google search) so that users of Elementor will have another reason to sing the praises of this plugin for WordPress.

Thanks to you both for explaining about what the default fonts are in Elementor. I appreciate having that answer since I did not find it anywhere in the documentation I read (all of it). ArielK, you might look to have one of the development crew address this shortcoming as well as my follow-up question: As @dasigna wrote

“you can however implement any fonts by your own in the theme youre using with the common css-things – no need to become a master coder, but to take a closer look how things work”

As I am not a coder, BUT can follow directions reasonably well, could one of the two of you please explain, in a step-by-step manner, how one adds a particular font to the fonts available in Elementor. Likewise, it would be extremely cool if one could add the entire library of fonts available through squirrelfonts.com. Can this be done without becoming a Master Coder or should I just have you add it to the ‘wish list’ for the next version of Elementor?

Many thanks!

Frank

I’m back again, this time to expand upon my original request to develop some search filters for the Plugin library.

Besides the Plugin library, I find there is no search capability within a given Plugin’s support forum. As a case in point: I wanted to find out which fonts came with Elementor Page Builder’s Plugin. When I was unable to find the answer to my question within the Plugin’s documentation, I thought to look in the Plugin’s support forum. I had no trouble reaching the support forum, but once there, I found over twenty pages of support requests that I had to wade through, looking for a reference in the subject line to the word ‘font’. I found a few such support requests, but none that approximated an answer to my question. How much easier and less time consuming would this have been with just a simple word lookup for the twenty and odd pages of requests that I went through by hand.

Now I know, full good and well, that WordPress has some truly expert coders on its staff. How much trouble would it really be to assign a small team of them to address these search concerns that keep getting brought up over and over?

I too would like to see some meaningful ways to sort the results from a search. By way of example: I was just looking for a plugin to create a registration page. I was told my search for ‘registration page’ yielded over 1000 hits! It would be exceedingly helpful to be able to take a large search result like that and boil it down by WordPress version supported, number of installs, overall rating, etc. I’m rather surprised that a sort-by function like that hasn’t been created already.