pcbdaily trust me I get where you are coming from, just don’t want to see people blame Automatic for this. I was having the same issues as you guys, and it ended up being a plugin’s javascript causing the issue. I like you also saw the update and ran an update on my blog and had some issues. I was just pointing out that when you have clients websites on it you might want to do some testing first especially when going from the 2.7’s to 2.8 because some plugins just plain don’t work.