Why end all my contact form mails in spam map?

  • Hello Guido,

    Every message that is send from my vscf contact form ends up in the spam map.
    In PHPMailer i change Return-Path to my postmaster adres.
    I am not able to change the from address to the address of the sender.
    I think that is de reason it is marked as spam every time.
    How can i change the from address the same as the contact form sender?

    Sorry i can’t disclose the domain of my local dev wordpress instance.

    
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Delivered-To: [email protected]
Received: from mail.xxxxxxxx.xxx
	by server3.xxxxxxx.xxx with LMTP
	id ---------
	(envelope-from <[email protected]>)
	for <[email protected]>; Tue, 12 Jul 2022 00:57:18 +0200
Received: by mail.xxxxxx.xxx (Postfix, from userid 33)
	id 4BCA761DC0; Tue, 12 Jul 2022 00:57:17 +0200 (CEST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=xxxxx.xxx; s=2020010801;
	t=1657580237; h=from:from:sender:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:
	 message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:
	 content-type:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:
	 references; bh==
To: [email protected]
Subject: WWW Contact formulier.
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2022 22:57:17 +0000
From: NAME <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
Message-ID: ----------------
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
X-Spam: Yes

Xxxx

[email protected]

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Privacy toestemming: Ik ga ermee akkoord dat dit contact formulier persoonlijke gegevens verzamelt.

IP-adres: xx.xx.xx.xxx
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  • Thread Starter Gerard

    (@gerard1964)

    The short code i use is:
    [contact email_to="[email protected]" scroll_to_form="true" from_header="[email protected]" prefix_subject="WWW Contact formulier."]

    Wen i remove from_header the from adres is [email protected] a non existing email address wich also ends up in the spam map.

    Plugin Author Guido

    (@guido07111975)

    Hi Gerard,

    The From header (email address) should end with your website domain. That’s the reason for the “wordpress@your-domain” header. When submission is still marked as spam consider using a SMTP plugin. More info at my plugin page.

    Guido

    Thread Starter Gerard

    (@gerard1964)

    Hi Guido, thank you for your reaction.

    from_header=”[email protected]” does have the same domain as the wordpress website.

    Sad i can’t get it to work without filling up spam maps without using a smtp plugin.
    I like simplicity.

    Plugin Author Guido

    (@guido07111975)

    Hi,

    It’s also possible the mail provider doesn’t trust your website domain or domain-extension. In that case SMTP is best practice. There’s a reason SMTP plugins exist ??
    Can you try another contact form plugin and see what happens? Such as Contact form 7 or WPForms. Please let me know the outcome of that test. Besides this, marking submissions save / not spam may help as well, for future submissions.

    Guido

    Thread Starter Gerard

    (@gerard1964)

    The mail server is my local postfix server. The wordpress site is also running on the same local server. The mail is not leaving my network since both are local.

    I have a other website with my own contact form wich works without mails ending up in the spam folder. The problem is only with the VSCF.

    My mail server has a ham/spam learning system. Wen i move the email from the spam to the inbox it is learned to be ham. The next time i test its still ending up in the spam folder. And yes my server and this learning system word 100% for years. No problem with my mail server.

    I like your mail form but this spam problem making it problematic. I don’t want to install unneeded extra plugins. I like simplicity.

    It is possible to use a contact form and send mails without a problem. Just not with my wordpress site using VSCF i am sad to say.

    Thread Starter Gerard

    (@gerard1964)

    With all the tests i did this week on my VSCF i entered hotmail client email addresses in the form. They all went in to the spam folder.
    Tonight i thought lets use another email not being a hotmail account.
    And guess what it didn’t go strait to the spam folder.

    If my mail server would’ve blocked the hotmail accounts i would see a rspam report in the mail source code. With the hotmail addresses is see no rspam report.

    What is blocking those hotmail accounts?
    in the source code there is no rspam report just
    X-Spam: Yes
    nothing else.

    I cant make hotmail accounts send to my regular inbox.

    Plugin Author Guido

    (@guido07111975)

    Hi,

    I don’t know postfix so don’t have experience with that. You can compare a submission send from VSCF with another contact form plugin. Maybe hotmail is blocked while using another plugin as well. If the same result it’s a postfix configuration thing perhaps?

    Guido

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