Site Much Slower w/Better Scores after Activation

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  • Plugin Author Frank Goossens

    (@futtta)

    Morning theorganicconservative;
    Regarding speed (or lack thereof); as far as I can tell you’re not running a page caching plugin. Using Autoptimize without a page caching plugin (e.g. wp super cache) is not something I would suggest, as in that case Autoptimize will be triggered for every pageload.

    Regarding the remaining Google Pagespeed Insight suggestions concerning render-blocking CSS; the two Google font-ones are external, so those are not treated by AO. For the three autoptimized CSS-files, there’s info in the FAQ on how to make those non-render blocking.

    Hope this helps,
    frank

    Thread Starter theorganicconservative

    (@theorganicconservative)

    Hello, and thank you.

    Further questions and answers:

    I do not have a page caching plugin but I do have Cloudflare with Railgun running on the site. Does that count?

    I actually have no idea how to determine the above the fold CSS. I took two of the main CSS files and placed them at that link you provide for this (in FAQ) but don’t know what else to do, nor if that was correct.

    With CDN turned on for your plugin, it did break the CSS on several pages, sometimes all pages (not sure how to attach screenshot, but it is not still broken as I removed the CDN field https://cdn.organicconservative.net/. I really hope to make that work, as speed and scores improved noticeably.

    I also notice one other troubling thing: On this page: https://www.organicconservative.net/bridging-the-gap/
    there is a moment where part of the text of the page flashes first before loading the rest.

    Also, I don’t know what would go in these, or whether to leave Autoptimize’s default text in:
    Exclude CSS from Autoptimize:
    Exclude scripts from Autoptimize:

    Finally, Disqus would not work with the plugin so I tried the suggestion to enable:
    Look for scripts only in <head>?
    and it worked. This helps Disqus but diminishes optimization results.
    Would I necessarily also enable:
    Force JavaScript in <head>?

    Thank you, again! ??

    Thread Starter theorganicconservative

    (@theorganicconservative)

    Plugin Author Frank Goossens

    (@futtta)

    doing CSS deferring can be pretty difficult, so I would advice either to keep CSS at default setting (with slightly lower pagespeed score) or to inline all (which, if you have on average multiple pageviews/visit, can result in slightly lower page speed).

    don’t know about cloudflare with railgun really, if it acts as a page caching mechanism (or caching reverse proxy, varnish-alike), then your performance with AO active should really be significantly better then without AO.

    hope this helps,
    frank

    Thread Starter theorganicconservative

    (@theorganicconservative)

    Thanks. What about these questions?

    With CDN turned on for your plugin, it did break the CSS on several pages, sometimes all pages (not sure how to attach screenshot, but it is not still broken as I removed the CDN field https://cdn.organicconservative.net/. I really hope to make that work, as speed and scores improved noticeably.

    Also, I don’t know what would go in these, or whether to leave Autoptimize’s default text in:
    Exclude CSS from Autoptimize:
    Exclude scripts from Autoptimize:

    Finally, Disqus would not work with the plugin so I tried the suggestion to enable:
    Look for scripts only in <head>?
    and it worked. This helps Disqus but diminishes optimization results.
    Would I necessarily also enable:
    Force JavaScript in <head>?

    Thank you, sir.

    Thread Starter theorganicconservative

    (@theorganicconservative)

    We are getting this message:

    This page has 9 external Javascript scripts. Try combining them into one. This page has 6 external stylesheets. Try combining them into one.

    Here:

    https://gtmetrix.com/reports/organicconservative.net/eF4AanJd

    We are truly hoping to make this plugin work for our site. It seems very, very promising. We look forward to your suggestions.

    Thread Starter theorganicconservative

    (@theorganicconservative)

    Dear Frank,

    We figured out what was causing the moment where part of the text of the page flashes first before loading the rest on that one page. The three words that were loading first were actually in an italicized font, unlike the rest of the content on that page. We un-italicized it without even thinking and the problem went away. We wanted to let you know that was solved. Thank you.

    Plugin Author Frank Goossens

    (@futtta)

    Great!

    Regarding previous questions:
    * some JS indeed has to be in head, so you could either exclude that specific script or indeed force JS in head.
    * just leave the default values in the exclude-fields (although those are mainly examples), except if you want to exclude anything additionally (see previous point)
    * you indeed still have a significant amount of css/js-files, but those are not from you own domain but from 3rd party sites, e.g. for your ads & fonts and stuff.
    * I did a webpagetest-test and you “time to first byte” is too high really, which leads me to conclude that there’s no working page caching component (caching proxy or plugin).
    * for cdn I should see the problem, really

    frank

    Thread Starter theorganicconservative

    (@theorganicconservative)

    Hello and thank you again!

    1. [* some JS indeed has to be in head, so you could either exclude that specific script or indeed force JS in head.]

    Would we exclude this: disqus.js? Or, might you know the script we would exclude for Disqus to work with Automptimize?

    2. [* for cdn I should see the problem, really]

    We went ahead and re-entered this in the CDN field of Autoptimize: https://cdn.organicconservative.net/

    If possible, please take a look at the site, which has CSS entirely broken.

    Plugin Author Frank Goossens

    (@futtta)

    for disqus exclude “disqusConfig” and “disqus-comment-system” (without the quotes) to the comma-seperated list of JS exclusions.

    for CDN; the problem is that https://cdn.organicconservative.net/ doesn’t exist. Autoptimize does not create a CDN for you, it requires a working CDN and will just change the URL of files to the CDN URL. If the CDN domain doesn’t exist (or work), then your site indeed will be broken.

    frank

    Thread Starter theorganicconservative

    (@theorganicconservative)

    Okay, that worked for Disqus. Yay! Thank you.

    We will try to find out the URL of our CDN service.

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