Proper Titles and Descriptions ?

Page Title in the plugin base page, the albums page

Please explain. I really do not understand what you mean.

Let me guess: An auto generated landing page for wppa has a name and description that you do not like? Just edit it; you may also change the permalink. Wppa uses the page ID, not the name or permalink.

you already have URLS with no meaning at all (to search engines).

???? Pleas explain…

Pls give me examples of what is wrong in your eyes

Ok, here come more details. I’m not talking about landing pages, i haven’t got there yet ??

1. Meta Descriptions are not showing anywhere. Entering the base page (Galleries for my test setup) i see only the <Title>.

2. <Title> tag is shown the SAME in base page and each album. For me it shows “<title>Galleries – dev</title>” and that is the Base Page name and the Site name.

Now, enabling SEO Framework to improve all those, i can define a Description and Title for the Base Page and that is all. All the albums have the same Title and Description as the base page, so no the SEO plugin can’t help in that case.

About the URLS i will reply a little bit later, so i can fully write my findings in details.

I still have not the faintest idea what you are talking about, sorry. What do you mean by base page?
Pls supply me a link, or if that is not possible a screenshot.

Do you have a simple wp page with the content [wppa][/wppa] ? if not, make one and see if this works correctly.

Base page, the page that has the wppa shortcode.

For me “[wppa type=”cover” album=”#all” size=”auto” align=”center”]Any comment[/wppa]”

I can’t post a url, since this is a dev system, i will be able to after the weekend.

Ok, after one week online, i have the gallery pages indexed by Google and i can see what is right and wrong and also post details.

1. The page that has the shortcode: Has only a NON configurable title, in my case:

<title>Venice Photo Galleries – Discover Venice</title>

No Description of any kind, so Google has indexed like this (google took the description random from the page):

Venice Photo Galleries – Discover Venice
https://www.discovervenice.eu/photo-galleries/
Venice Through The Eyes of Francis Toussaint. Francis Toussaint tribute. He was an extraordinarily gifted photographer. Apologies for the ugly black border of the photos, but this is how they were originally posted at Pbase. View 127 photos · self-portrait-francis-toussaint-128.jpg ...

Can we have a meta description somehow ?

2. An Album: the Title is the SAME as (1). And NO description also.

One Album indexed by Google (no title and description without meaning):

Venice Photo Galleries – Discover Venice
https://www.discovervenice.eu/photo-galleries/wppaspec...
Photo Galleries. Photo Galleries ? Venice Carnival 2007. 1. 2 · 3 · 4 · 5 · 6 · 7 . . . Venice_Carnival_2007_7109.jpg. Venice_Carnival_2007_7048.jpg. Venice_Carnival_2007_6161.jpg. Venice_Carnival_2007_6163.jpg. Venice_Carnival_2007_6165.jpg. Venice_Carnival_2007_6167.jpg. Venice_Carnival_2007_6168.jpg.

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Since the albums have a title and description, we could have them also in <title> and <description>.

Thank you !

Got this working:

<!-- WPPA+ Og Share data -->
<meta property="og:site_name" content="WPPA Beta Test" />
<meta property="og:type" content="article" />
<meta property="og:url" content="https://betatest.opajaap.nl/test-page/" />
<meta property="og:title" content="Kimmy Breetvelt" />
<meta property="og:description" content="Standaard album voor Kimmy" />
<!-- WPPA+ End Og Share data -->

on the pages source of: https://betatest.opajaap.nl/test-page/

This is automatically generated if the page has [wppa ...... album="123" (numeric album id) and Table IX-C2 (Meta all) is UNticked, Table IX-C3 (Add og meta tags) is ticked and there is no album id in the url.

Would this do it? It is now in dev version 6.8.06.005

Does google reads Open Graph ? Or it is just for Facebook ? I have no idea, i need to search this.

Because in your test i still see NO Correct Title (the og:title is ok) and NO Meta Description, only og: description. Why ?

<title>Venice Photo Galleries – Discover Venice</title> is generated by the theme, i have no control over it.
<description></description> does not exist as html tag.

I can add (see my example above):

<meta name="title" content="Kimmy Breetvelt" />
<meta name="description" content="Standaard album voor Kimmy" />

if you like…?

Ok i was able to change / edit FULLY the Title and Description for the page that contains the Shortcode (base page as i call it). Doing that via the excellent SEO Framework i use. Didn’t notice i could change all pages like that. So this is solved, except that now i have TWO titles. We will see how this goes. It is a step.

Now for the albums. I think since we have a title and description in wppa, that should/could be used. Something like your example. I think it ok.

One question: wouldn’t that be possible for wppa to provide the data to popular seo plugins, instead of adding your own ? Is that possible ?

Thanks !

Version 6.8.06.006 now produces in my example:

<!-- WPPA+ meta tags -->
<meta name="title" content="Kimmy Breetvelt" />
<meta name="description" content="Standaard album voor Kimmy" />
<!-- WPPA+ Og Share data -->
<meta property="og:site_name" content="WPPA Beta Test" />
<meta property="og:type" content="article" />
<meta property="og:url" content="https://betatest.opajaap.nl/test-page/" />
<meta property="og:title" content="Kimmy Breetvelt" />
<meta property="og:description" content="Standaard album voor Kimmy" />
<!-- WPPA+ End Og Share data -->

I suggest that you test this (current dev version).
In general – to my knowledge – only the first of duplicate matatags is interpreted.

Jacob it doesn’t show anything at all to me in Albums. You can check yourself (the url is above).

Must i enable something else ?

The page must have [wppa ...... album="123" (numeric album id) in the content
Table IX-C2 (Meta all) must be UNticked
Table IX-C3 (Add og meta tags) must be ticked.

(Clear the cache ….)

Jacob, i lost you.

I have ONE page with the shortcode and that’s it.

[wppa type="cover" album="#all" size="auto" align="center"]Any comment[/wppa]

#all is not a positive integer number. I do not know which album description should be used for the description meta tag
The page must have [wppa ...... album="123" (numeric album id) in the content

Create a new album, say it is album number 13. Give it a name and a description to be used in the metatags.
Set the parent of the albums that are currently shown on the page to the new album.
Change the shortcode into:
[wppa type="covers" album="13" size="auto" align="center"]Any comment[/wppa]
Note “covers” (not “cover”, to display the covers of the albums children).

This will show the same and there is one unique description detectable.

• This reply was modified 6 years, 11 months ago by Jacob N. Breetvelt.
• This reply was modified 6 years, 11 months ago by Jacob N. Breetvelt.

The Shortcode was not created manually but by your wizard in a page. So what went wrong, was not done by me. I just followed the wizard dropdowns. “#all” was created after some selection of mine, automatically also. And works nice.

And i don’t to put any albums manually, since galleries are/will be added and deleted, so ….

I will try to play a bit with what you wrote, still i must have the “all”, otherwise i can’t add/remove manually albums and galleries.

Thanks

• This reply was modified 6 years, 11 months ago by massimod.
• This reply was modified 6 years, 11 months ago by massimod.