Pods support – create post form?

Hi @mungbean

I hope you’re well today and thank you for your question!

It should be working fine with custom post types. I just tested it with free version of Pods to make sure: I created a new custom post type (pretty basic though) and then a post creation form and my custom post type shows up on “Post type” list in “post data” field settings:

Note though: this is about custom post type itself. If you are referring to custom post fields associated with it then Forminator does not detect and list those – neither for those created with Pods nor for any other.

Instead you just need to use “label” that is matching the custom field name and then Forminator form will be able to write to such field. It will, however, only pass simple text (raw string) data to such field – it can’t handle any more complex fields.

Kind regards,
Adam

Thanks for getting back to me, Adam. Your video was very helpful (what did you use to embed/host it, btw?)

Unfortunately my Pod post type is not showing up like yours. And as you said, it may be because your example was a “simple” post type.

My Pod post type uses several different field types which may be beyond what Forminator can currently support? The fields include the WYSIWYG field, Code field, Relationship field, Plan Text field, Website field, Date field, and Plain Paragraph Text field. If the issue is field type related, are there plans to support these additional field types in the future?

Also, I experimented with field types in a test Pod, Pod post types with these fields seems to work: Plain Text, Plain Paragraph. I’ll need to report back on other fields, to see at what point will the Pod not show up as available to Forminator.

Follow up:

I created a test Pod post type as mentioned earlier, and it contains all of the field types used in my existing Pod post type (that doesn’t show up in Forminator). I’m not sure if the issue is field type now, or perhaps related to installing Forminator after having already created Pod post types.

I hope it’s not the latter, as I already have content created by the Pod post type, and wouldn’t want to rebuild it again.

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Patrick Freitas

Sent! My recent test Pod post type shows up in settings, but my original Post post types still do not show.

I’ve been experimenting and am trying to find more documentation on the Create Post form type, I found this page on your website https://wpmudev.com/docs/wpmu-dev-plugins/forminator/#post-data-field. It was pretty helpful but a tutorial/walkthrough would be great.

In the meantime I have a couple questions:

To map each form field to a post type field, each form field needs to be of the type “Post Data” or is the form entirely composed of a single Post Data field?

If it’s the former, do I add as many “Custom Fields” for the Post Data field, one for each post type field? If so, the options for custom fields appear to be limited to name, text, date, html, and website – are these default field types or based on the fields from the selected post type in Settings?

And if it’s the latter, for cases with Pods post types, some Pod field types in my text example are not reflected, such as embed and relationship.

I ended up going with a single “post data” field for the form and added as many of the compatible “custom fields” to that post data field. But when I embed the form shortcode, the form only shows “title” field of the “post data” field. I only enabled the “title” and “custom fields.”

Great and promising feature, really hoping to get this to work for my application.

Thanks!

• This reply was modified 2 years, 11 months ago by mungbean.
• This reply was modified 2 years, 11 months ago by mungbean.

Hi @mungbean

(what did you use to embed/host it, btw?)

I created it using TechSmith Capture tool (free) for Windows and uploaded video to their storage that comes with the app. I just posted URL of it in my response and, apparently, it gets automatically embedded here.

Unfortunately my Pod post type is not showing up like yours. And as you said, it may be because your example was a “simple” post type.

I understand from your next post that you can now see the post type so that’d be a first step forward.

My Pod post type uses several different field types which may be beyond what Forminator can currently support?

This is what can actually be a bit confusing about Pods. What you call a “Pod post type” here is in fact a custom post type together with additional settings (like e.g. use WYSIWYG editor or not) and assigned custom fields. A post type/post and custom fields are not quite the same so that requires a big different handling in Forminator. I’ll get to it below.

To map each form field to a post type field, each form field needs to be of the type “Post Data” or is the form entirely composed of a single Post Data field?(…)

On a Formiantor form you need just one, single “post data” element. Then you go to settings of that element and

1. in “Settings” tab you select your custom post type from post type list (which you already did, I understand)

2. in “Labels” tab you enable any of needed options out of these: title, content, excerpt, featured image, categories, tags. These are referring to main part of your pods post type – to the actual custom post type. That’s “equivalent” of any regular post.

3. now for any “custom fields” – any additional/other fields, you do enable “Custom Fields” in post data “Labels” section and that’s where the “tricky” part starts;

You need to look into “Fields” section of your Pod. Each field that you created there have a “name” set so you need to take that name and then get back to the form and in “custom fields” setting of “post data” put that name into “label” field.

This will “connect” pod custom field with form custom field.

The second part of it is whether value of that pod field should be “fixed” or you want it to be submitted by the user submitting the form. If it’s “fixed” then you simply put a value in a “value” field of the custom fields setting of post data in the form.

If it’s to be submitted you need to add a regular “input” field to the form first. Then you would edit “post data” field and in “value” field of custom field there click on a little “+” icon and select that input field.

Note: Forminator form will always pass only a plain text data to custom fields, it will not follow your Pods settings. It’s always a simple plain text data.

Best regarsd,
Adam

Kind regards,
Adam

Thank you for the video, Adam! As they a picture is worth a thousand words, a video must be worth exponentially more.

So where my confusion was that there must be one “post data” field, but for every “custom fields” field there must a corresponding actual form field. I thought the entire form for a create post form contained just the single “post data” field and all field mapping was there. But really, custom field mapping must be mapped to actual fields in the form itself.

I was able to set up a create post form for my test Pod post type! But I am still unable to see my existing Pod post type in the available list, which is still disheartening and I hope can be resolved. Fingers crossed!

Is it possible build a combined form, composed of a “create post” form with extra form fields? For example the first 5 fields correspond to “custom fields” in the “post data” field, but then have 3 additional form fields – file upload, name, website. I assume the 5 custom fields would create the post, but where does the data for the 3 unmapped general fields go?

As a general suggestion, are there plans to add a “captcha” field option? Also is it possible to password protect a form? Either to hide it’s visibility or to prevent form submission? It would also be great to have a repeater function, especially a field-group-repeater, so potentially enabling creating multiple posts from a single form submission.

Thanks!

Resolved! It was a Pods setting, the “Public” setting was unchecked under the Advanced Settings for the existing Pod. A pod must be public for Forminator to “discover” it. Because I had quickly put together a test Pod to troubleshoot this issue, I didn’t bother to dig into the advanced settings.

Thanks for your help Adam and Patrick!

Hello there @mungbean

I’m glad you sort that out and I appreciate your time in sharing it in our forums.

As a general suggestion, are there plans to add a “captcha” field option? Also is it possible to password protect a form? Either to hide it’s visibility or to prevent form submission? It would also be great to have a repeater function, especially a field-group-repeater, so potentially enabling creating multiple posts from a single form submission.

There is already a separate captcha field that can be used:
https://wpmudev.com/docs/wpmu-dev-plugins/forminator/#captcha-field

Also, some Lifespan options that can help to limit submissions based on the number of submissions or date:
https://wpmudev.com/docs/wpmu-dev-plugins/forminator/#lifespan

Finally, a new repeater field is currently in progress and should be introduced in some future updates. Still, no ETA that I could provide.

Take care,
Dimitris

Thanks, Dimitris. I totally missed the Captcha field, you are correct it’s already there. Regarding the Lifespan setting, is there a way to do submissions per day/hour etc.? Like a cool-down period – “You’ve submitted this form X times in X minutes, please try again in X mins/hours/days”

I also look forward to the repeater/repeater set function in the future.

A question about “create post” forms. Is it possible build a combined function form, composed of a “create post” form with extra form fields? For example, a form with 8 fields, where the first 5 fields correspond to “custom fields” in the “post data” field, but then have 3 additional form fields – file upload, name, website – for data collection.

I assume the 5 custom fields would create the post, but where does the data for the 3 unmapped general fields go?

• This reply was modified 2 years, 11 months ago by mungbean.

Hi @mungbean

Regarding the Lifespan setting, is there a way to do submissions per day/hour etc.? Like a cool-down period – “You’ve submitted this form X times in X minutes, please try again in X mins/hours/days”

There’s option to limit submissions either by overall number of submissions or by date but not both at once and it’s a “per form” setting rather than “per user”.

A limit such as “this user submitted X time in X minutes” would have to be custom developed and I’m afraid this is out of the scope of our support.

There is, however, a plan to implement “per hour per IP” setting which would work in a similar way that you asked. I don’t have an ETA but it’s planned for future to be implemented in plugin.

A question about “create post” forms. Is it possible build a combined function form, composed of a “create post” form with extra form fields? For example, a form with 8 fields, where the first 5 fields correspond to “custom fields” in the “post data” field, but then have 3 additional form fields – file upload, name, website – for data collection.

I assume the 5 custom fields would create the post, but where does the data for the 3 unmapped general fields go?

It is possible but if those additional fields (that are not part of “post data” field) would either have to be mapped to custom fields via the “post data” field or they can be “left alone” but in such case they will not be in any way related to created post. Instead they’ll just be submitted like any other regular (non-post creation) form and you’ll find them in “Formiantor -> Submissions” if form is set to keep data in DB.

The only way to “assign” them to created post is to “map” them to post via the custom fields through “post data” field settings.

Kind regards,
Adam