[Plugin: Constant Contact for WordPress] Hiding lists not working

katz,

One reason I didn’t reply was James’ tone.

The fact is, the UI clearly implies you can control list hiding and showing separately, inline comments notwithstanding – the presence of both sets of controls is confusing. You guys can say “well you just don’t get it” and write us off or you can take this as feedback that your UI isn’t clear and endeavor to make it more clear. Look, anytime you need to explain your UI in inline comments, it’s a good indication that the UI isn’t clear.

As I said above, I’d simply have one set of controls and, if a list is checked, it’s shown. If it’s not checked it isn’t. This is not (at the UI level) rocket science. However, right now, the plugin is useless with WP 3.0x since all of the lists show up regardless of the UI choices I make.

The plugin was built this way after receiving feedback from many users of the drupal module, not everyone wanted it to work the way you describe, it did previously work like that in the drupal module and when I changed it nobody ever complained about it because it provides the best of both worlds as far as I’m concerned, infact your the only person who has complained about the way the contact list selection works, albeit not the only person who has said the inline comments are confusing :(.

My thinking was that some people want to do what you described but some people also want it so newly added lists automatically appear without having to go into the plugin interface and specifically enable each new list.

I would not recommend you change this Zack unless you can get a few more users to agree that it would be more useful without more options, I know for a fact you’ll piss off some users straight away by doing this.

Perhaps we can make it so it’s just more friendly to use like we have discussed before, maybe use some ajax to change descriptions depending on the list selection method (checkbox or drop down) and maybe even providing an option to say something like “Do you want to show all lists or only show the contact lists you choose?” then when they select one of those it will show the corresponding set of checkboxes for them to choose which lists to hide or show?

Please do not rush into anything on this without consulting more users ??

Thanks,
James

“some people also want it so newly added lists automatically appear without having to go into the plugin interface and specifically enable each new list.”

OK, now that’s a use case I’d not thought of.

Here’s the issue I’m WAS having though – No combination of the various options lets me show just my active lists and hide test lists. However, 3.01 seems to fix this (or I had a plug issue). Odd, but it works now. And thanks for expanding on the use case above – I’d not considered that and, though it’s not the way I’d every run things… it’s valid.

EDIT: Whoops, spoke too soon. Here’s what happened. I had, for other reasons, started with a fresh database. When I initially installed this plugin I went into the widget settings and hid the 2 test lists. This produced exactly what I wanted. However, I thought “Geee, I should unhide the main test list so we can test out this plugin without affecting the main lists” so i went back into the widget settings and UNchecked the main test list under the Hide section. Annnd… the test list doesn’t show. It’s as if the initial settings are recorded just fine, but updating them doesn’t affect anything. Odd….

I’ve not tested the plugin for a while personally but welcome the changes Zack has made, I think this sounds like the cache problem others have reported recently, if so a fix will be released soon.

If your familar with wordpress you can try manually clearing the cached data and see if that fixes this, if it does’nt likely the problem is elsewhere, please report your findings back here if you go down that route.

Regards,
James