No documentation, no help desk…
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Documentation is an incomplete collection of examples, help desk says: “we are not able to offer support for custom development on top of Ninja Forms, only for out of the box features.”
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Since you have chosen to take your extremely negative attitude public, I will fill in the details you have left out.
First, your title “No help desk” is simply untrue. We have been in constant and prompt communication with you since you opened your ticket with us.
Your requests to us have not been for help with a plugin or extension, but rather rude demands for custom development or detailed DEVELOPMENT (not user) documentation on an extension that your purchased.
Aside from that, the developer documentation we provide is the same documentation that all of our collaborating developers have used to develop extensions for Ninja Forms for years.
You purchased our PayPal Express extension with the intention of making significant modifications to the way it functions to match your own use case. That is perfectly acceptable to do with the understanding that we cannot support whatever modifications you make to the extension. This a perfectly reasonable support policy…we only support our own code, especially for premium add ons.
Despite our inability to support your custom development, we have constantly and politely provided you with the documentation needed make the modifications you requested, however you seemed to have trouble understanding the provided code examples.
At this point, you became rude and condescending to our support team (including myself), accused us of fraudulent advertising and misrepresentation of our product. As I mentioned before, dozens of other developers have used the developer documentation you continue to trumpet as inadequate with success to modify Ninja Forms.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion of your experience, but I want to make it clear where your opinions have stemmed from…taking offense at a very clear and reasonable support policy, and our refusal to create specific code examples and documentation to match your exact use case in a premium extension.
This your homepage:
“Ninja Forms was built with developers in mind. There are hundreds of functions, action hooks, and filters that developers can use to create their own custom functionality.”
This is your email:
“Unfortunately we are not able to offer support for custom development on top of Ninja Forms, only for out of the box features”
How can I “read” the PayPal IPN notification data?
No more words, please…
The Ninja Forms PayPal Express premium extension does not include support for PayPal Instant Payment Notifications, which is a notification system not directly related to the checkout flow.
The PayPal Express premium extension is for collecting payments, while the IPN system is designed “to automate back-office and administrative functions“1. This is outside of the clearly stated scope of the Ninja Forms PayPal Express extension.
If you are in need of utilizing PayPal’s IPN, there their documentation is available on their website.
1. https://developer.paypal.com/webapps/developer/docs/classic/products/instant-payment-notification/
Ok but, why when
I’ve asked by email: “I need to hook IPN notification from PayPal, how can I do?”
You responded: “When the form is submitted and a successful payment is made, ninja_forms_post_process is executed.”
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Agree among yourselves
I have to side with the devs on this one and, frankly, I feel like there should be a way to report reviews that aren’t a review of the plugin itself.
EnergyDome, you clearly are out of your element and trying to ruin the reputation of the plugin and the developers due to your lack of knowledge and/or familiarity with development. Both devs have told you (and even told you more kindly than I probably would have) that what you’re asking is possible but outside the scope of their support. They’ve given you a specific starting point from which to work (the event/hook that you would need to use to do what you’re asking), they’ve given you a link to the documentation needed to get it to work, and they’ve even reiterated (on several occasions, it seems) that the help they’ve provided is already above and beyond the capabilities of the plugin and its intended features. This is all on you and you should be embarrassed for having the nerve to give them a 1-star review for something that’s clearly your fault and your issue.
I haven’t even reviewed the plugin yet, but, as a dev that’s worked on plugins before and has had to deal with people like you, you need someone else to tell you that you’re unreasonable. So, having said that, you’re being unreasonable…
“Ninja Forms was built with developers in mind.”
So then… are you admitting that you have no idea what you’re doing since you’re clearly *not* a developer or are you simply pointing out that Ninja Forms was built with developers in mind and you ignored that?
Simply this slogan is written on your home page. Delete it…
First off… it’s not my slogan. I’m not one of the developers. Secondly, Ninja Forms *was* built with developers in mind. That’s why you have the event hooks included in the code in several different places. If you know how to use event hooks, you could easily extend the functionality of Ninja Forms to do whatever you wanted it to do. That would require that you’re a developer that knows how to develop, though, which is clearly not what you are. I think it’s a shame and an embarrassment that you can’t even admit that you’re at fault here. There is no issue at all with the claim on the Ninja Forms home page. Hundreds of developers are using it and extending it. The issue lies with you.
Ok, you are a Troll…
No, not a troll. Just a dev who is sick of good plugins getting terrible reviews from people who have no idea what they’re doing, can’t read, and blame the plugin authors for their own mistakes rather than any actual fault of the plugin. If anything, you’re the troll since you can’t even explain what the issue with the plugin is outside of “I don’t know what I’m doing” or “I didn’t read the instructions”.
LOL, you beat me, you’re definitely a troll and I lost time to answer…
Still not a troll on this end. So you admit that you have no idea what you’re doing, then? Oh wait… I can just look at your post and review history where you review *several* plugins and give them 0 stars for the same issue that you can’t seem to figure out. If only WordPress gave users like you reputation points so that others could see that your reviews are meaningless.
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