Network Solutoins Claims W3C Slows Server – Thoughts?

the answer is obvious; compare your site with and without those plugins doing a 5-run test on webpagetest.org & running it through google pagespeed insights.

if your site scores better with W3TC & AO, then your hoster is wrong. typically server load might be higher while the cache (both W3TC & AO) is being built, but once that is done server load should be lower and performance should be a lot better.

frank

@newsmomcom

Most people would be quite surprised to learn how little of the time most support techs at most hosts know about what they’re talking about. Most hosts also train their support staff to in effect “blame the victim” or otherwise divert attention away from just how poor their hosting is — when the hosting/server is clearly the issue — especially when shared.

1.) The combination of W3TC and Autoptimize, unless dramatically misconfigured, can do nothing but reduce server load and improve TTFB (Time to First Byte).

2.) Performance essentially begins and ends with server response. And so, even with minification, concatenation and caching in place, TTFB can only get so good on shared hosting, where your website is competing for resources with god only knows how many others.

3.) Is this your website? If so, you should turn database and object caching off. In a shared environment, and when caching these to disk, they are in all likelihood anti-performant.

4.) If you have page- or request-specific CSS or JavaScript, those should be excluded from aggregation by Autoptimize.

5.) You may well get superior TTFB if not overall better performance replacing W3TC with ZenCache as your caching engine.

Be well,
AJ

Thanks for the feedback gentlemen!

So, I’ve decided to stay with NetSol temporally as I am still building out my site and I only have a few thousand visitors a day max… but I plan on migrating to a better host next year.

In the meantime, I was hoping you could help me with a few remaining speed/plugin issues.

1) Do I need Both W3C & Autoptmize?

In the interest of reducing my number of plugins, do I need to use both Autoptimize and W3TC? I’ve been told that W3C should be the only plugin in need…

But when I disable Autoptmize and enable minify on W3C instead, my load times increase and I get the following errors. I’m I doing something wrong or do I need both plugins for full optimization?

Remove render-blocking JavaScript:
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Optimize CSS Delivery of the following:
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(NOTE: I do not minify HTML on either because it strips the “enter” spaces in my excerpts on my home page and I do not have the time to go tough hundreds of posts to add
to the first paragraph of each one)

2) Move Javascript to Footer

One of network solutions’ suggestions is to “Move Javascript to Footer.”
I’ve been reviewing support threads for W3TC, and I see that it was supposed to be added to a recent upgrade, but I cannot figure out how to do it in the settings.

Can you point me in the right direction?

3) “turn database and object caching off”

Per your suggestion AJ @ WpFASTER.org I turned off database & object caching in W3TC… however, oddly the suggestion I got from NetSol seems to contradict your logic (though I am inclined to trust you)
Their suggestion:

“Optimize Database Tables (optionally using WP-Optimize Plugin)”

Does this simply do the same thing as database caching on W3C? Or is it something different?

4) Other suggestions from NetSol:

Can you comment on the effectiveness of these other suggestions from Netsol? Are any of these worth hiring someone to implement? I currently have a 2 second Google page speed server response time.

(NOTE: Should I be concerned that upgrading the PHP might break my site?)

a. Remove Unnecesary PHP Executions and DB Calls
b. Upgrade PHP from 5.4 to 5.6
c. Enable GZIP Compression
d. We would also recommend having your developers look into AJAX, which would allow asynchronous loading of different page elements. This does not directly help server speeds, but creates a better user interface by not needing to reload the entire page with each request.

Thanks again for all of your help.

1. W3TC comes with JS&CSS aggregation & minification, so you should be able to drop AO. That being said, I think I should state that AO is better at the job. But I might be somewhat biased ??

2. AO by default puts JS in footer, only if option “force in head” is checked this is not the case. Can’t comment on W3TC.

3. WP optimize is different, as it tries to do some householding of your DB itself to make your DB faster, whereas W3TC’s object & db caching tries to avoid requests being sent to your DB.

4a. this roughly translates as “try to disable any plugin you don’t absolutely need”. some plugins can slow your site down considerably, so yeah, reviewing that list makes sense.

4b. based on some comparisons on the web, PHP 5.6 indeed is faster then 5.4, so that could be a quick win.

4c. absolutely

4d. that’s a _very_ broad suggestion. Facebook & LinkedIn work that way and frameworks like angular can be used to build such sites. Translated into wordpress that means looking for a javascript-driven theme (using angular or similar JS frameworks). I personally am not that enthusiastic about such solutions, as the overhead of loading all the JS makes the site slower for the first request (page). But all depends on your context, really.

Hope this helps,
frank

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