• Resolved leefogelqh

    (@leefogelqh)


    Despite using Paypal (“Express”) Checkout, and despite having a PayPal Business account with “PayPal Account Optional” enabled, our mobile users are being required to create a PayPal account (our desktop users are, indeed, not required to create a PayPal account).

    How can we allow our mobile users to buy products from our e-store *without* having to create a PayPal account? FYI, the vast majority of our users are based in Israel.

    Mobile: https://d1uosc6qj6oyca.cloudfront.net/img/mobile.png
    Desktop: https://d1uosc6qj6oyca.cloudfront.net/img/desktop.png

    WooCommerce System Status Report:

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    • This topic was modified 6 years, 4 months ago by leefogelqh.
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  • Plugin Support Orry F. a11n

    (@orhanf)

    Hey there!

    Could you post a link to your shop for us to check?

    This looks most likely to be a concern with PayPal and how they are handling mobile visitors, as these issues are taking place on their site and not on your shop.

    Let us know more so that we can assist you further on this!

    Thread Starter leefogelqh

    (@leefogelqh)

    Hi Orry,

    Shop URL: ourim.org

    FYI, our shop is in Hebrew. Thanks for your prompt reply.

    Lee

    Plugin Support Yuki K a11n.

    (@yukikatayama)

    Automattic Happiness Engineer

    Hi @leefogelqh,

    I checked your site and went through checkout on an iPhone 6. It looks like there’s an option to pay with credit card without having to log into PayPal:


    Link to image: https://cld.wthms.co/juYOZX

    What device are you using to try checking out?

    Thread Starter leefogelqh

    (@leefogelqh)

    Hi Yuki – Thanks for following up.

    1. Did you scroll all the way down on the PayPal checkout screen? That is where the form appears requiring you to create an account (once in the PayPal checkout screen, you can chance the language to English, of course, if it’s easier). You screenshot shows the top/beginning of the PayPal checkout screen.

    2. The vast majority of our users are on Android devices (including the site admin who also is asked to create a PayPal account), and I’m testing on an iPhone 5.

    3. Remember that almost all our users are located in Israel. Do you have a service (e.g. CrossBrowserTesting) that allows you to mimic a certain geolocation?

    Thanks!

    • This reply was modified 6 years, 4 months ago by leefogelqh.
    Thread Starter leefogelqh

    (@leefogelqh)

    Any update on this?

    FYI – I was able to replicate this behavior (i.e. I was required to create a PayPal account) while checking out using CrossBrowserTesting. I was testing on a Google Pixel 2 / 9.0, using Chrome Mobile 69, and the device was located in Memphis, TN (USA).

    Checkout Screen 1 (top): https://d1uosc6qj6oyca.cloudfront.net/img/1.png
    Checkout Screen 2 (bottom): https://d1uosc6qj6oyca.cloudfront.net/img/2.png

    Looking forward to an update from the team.

    Thanks,
    Lee

    • This reply was modified 6 years, 4 months ago by leefogelqh.
    • This reply was modified 6 years, 4 months ago by leefogelqh.
    Thread Starter leefogelqh

    (@leefogelqh)

    Any update on this, please? It’s been a week with no reply. Thanks.

    Thread Starter leefogelqh

    (@leefogelqh)

    Can I please have an update on this thread? It’s been 2 weeks with no reply.

    Plugin Support Hannah S.L.

    (@fernashes)

    Automattic Happiness Engineer

    Thanks for your patience! If you’re stuck in this situation with this specific thread again, you can ping my username.

    I tested this today, and see both the option to log in or create an account:

    PayPal
    Link to image: https://cld.wthms.co/atgoEM

    On scrolling all the way down, I’m offered the choice to create an account or not:

    Create an account
    Link to image: https://cld.wthms.co/LTIfqB

    My location is Stockholm, Sweden, if that helps for building up the test case.

    I think you’re on the right track in regards to the geolocation determining whether or not the login requirement is shown or not. Personally, I usually use a simple VPN service such as Bear Tunnel to test, though I would assume CrossBrowerTesti works as well.

    PayPal determines the content of that pop-up payment screen based on a few different variables, such as merchant locale, browser locale, IP address, etc. Even though we’ve developed the plugin, we don’t have any control over that pop-up once it’s up. I recommend reaching out to PayPal’s support first, and letting them know which locations are requiring a PayPal login. If they can’t tell you, please let us know and we’ll reach out to our PayPal contacts.

    Thread Starter leefogelqh

    (@leefogelqh)

    @fernashes – Thank you for your detailed reply. It’s unfortunate that PayPal limits the experience for the vast majority of our users. This leaves us with very few alternatives. Marking resolved since this doesn’t appear to be an issue with the plugin.

    Plugin Support Hannah S.L.

    (@fernashes)

    Automattic Happiness Engineer

    Hey there,

    I’m sorry that we weren’t able to help more here. If you do contact PayPal, it would be great if you could share what you learned for others who may encounter this issue.

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