• Resolved tekgirlymama

    (@tekgirlymama)


    Hi and thanks for your free plugin. I am now testing it. Sounds too good to be true a hidden field will stop bots.

    A note -in regards to manual submission or rather, smart bots that get through anyway – also without javascript, like Russian bots galore, even a Zeno powered bot builder, which no JS stops, I assure you.
    Any form can be bot-form-submitted and even bypass captchas easily with a bot, if you know what you’re doing. Q is only cost-efficiency.
    Fiddler and such is what the pros use and they can do a bot that works.
    A little tiny hidden field really is not gonna stop a decent bot. Even with JS. Really. 1980’s stuff. But let’s see.

    I def assume IP control or known IP DB integration for spam control would also be of use.

    Is there a way to mark the offending item as spam, not just to move to trash?
    Also in the trash would be great to enable this.

    Also, I see a test submission I made from an Elementor contact form on my site is in your stats as spam, I didn’t receive my own submission [yet]
    However, it is captured just fine in my Elementor contact form DB plugin.
    So in this plugin would be great being able to marc as spam.

    And a way to machine-learn to prevent same/similar spun content getting through a 2nd time is best.

    Thank you.

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  • Plugin Author Dnesscarkey

    (@dnesscarkey)

    @tekgirlymama ,

    Thank you so much for your suggestions. We will revise and try to integrate it.

    Thanks

    @tekgirlymama I don’t agree ??

    A little tiny hidden field really is not gonna stop a decent bot. Even with JS. Really. 1980’s stuff.

    Actually, a honeypot works pretty darn well to stop the majority of bots.
    A simple field which human can’t fill in, and bots do.

    I def assume IP control or known IP DB integration for spam control would also be of use.

    The beauty of a honeypot is that it is a local solution. It does not call and rely on external servers to transmit your client data: IP address, the message contents, their full contact information etc. Which I don’t like because, it:

    – Is an absolute killer for privacy of your clients
    – Increases loading times to transmit all these data to 3rd party services
    – Creates dependency on these 3rd parties being available and affordable

    If you want all that, you better switch to (a paid service such as) Akismet or Cleantalk. And I confess: they block almost 99%. And keep a log containing all your data.

    I rather have a good honeypot plugin which blocks 80% of SPAM, values my privacy and won’t make me dependent of the whims of a 3rd party.

    @dnesscarkey Keep up the good work, keep it simple and please don’t add any external calls!

    Plugin Author Dnesscarkey

    (@dnesscarkey)

    @erikmolenaar @tekgirlymama

    I agree with both your suggestions. I really like the idea of @tekgirlymama to mark it as spam. And @erikmolenaar’s suggestion to not make the external calls.

    We are always open with new features and suggestions. However, we are always against the external call for spam verification. No matter what we won’t have any external call.

    Thanks

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