Makron Problem

Hi,

thanks for your question, and sorry for the trouble.

Can you please post a link to the page with the table where this problem happens, so that I can take a direct look? Thanks!

Regards,
Tobias

Hallo Tobias,
Und vielen herzlischen Dank für die schnelle Antwort !
Verzeiht bitte meine Rechtschreibung, ich bin halt kein Deutscher (oder nur zur H?lfte von meine Mutter ^^).

Also, hmmm… Die Seite ist aktuell nicht online, da ich offline drauf arbeite mit Instant WP. Ich habe aber eine Test Seite woanders, die ich gerade in Ordnung bringe, und werde halt die gleiche Seite darauf uploaden mit gleiche Plugins, evtl kann ich dann der Problem reproduzieren. Wie siehts eigentlich aus mit scharfes S und andere Deutsche Karaktere? Ich denke mal ok, oder? Die Franz?sische Karaktere mit Akzente sind auf jedenfall korrekt angezeigt, nur die Makrons nicht leider… =(

Ich werde mich auf jeden fall wieder melden soweit ich etwas auf die Test-Seite aktualiziert habe.

Nochmal danke in voraus ! Sehr reaktiv ! =)

Hi,

you are very welcome! ??

Yes, a test site would be good here. Otherwise, I don’t see a way to debug this.
German and French characters should be fine, I haven’t seen problems with those.

Regards,
Tobias

I understand. I was trying to set up my test-site by hostinger, but i encounter since a few days 404 errors there, so they’re currently moving the website. I’ll try to find another free hoster in order to upload a mini-test website for you to debug.

Hi,

that would be great! Thanks!

Regards,
Tobias

Hhmmm… That’s very weird. I finally managed to update the test website but depsite my efforts, i couldn’t reproduce the same issue as on my website, which kinda suprise me as my actual website is pretty free of failure. I have on both websites same theme, options, css-style, plugins, wp, updates… it’s a copy, just without the articles.

What is very strange too, is that my website displays also incorrectly the color of the text, which should be black or black grey (#393939) but instead, it’s like you can see on the previous screenshot a light teint of grey which is nearly like gradient, making it sometimes difficult to read the caracters. Note : only the kanji are very clear black displayed…

I would really like to upload the website, but it isn’t possible yet, and i can even not replace the test website with it, as hostinger crashes all the time (takes very long to upload).

I’ll try to build a one page website from my actual site to reduce it’s weight to maximal, and upload it on box.com in order for you to test it, if you want. I’ll then provide you the link privately.

Hi,

thanks for further investigating this! I have received your email and will take a look shortly!

Regards,
Tobias

Hi,

ok, I was now able to take a look at your email. Unfortunately, there’s a problem… I’m using a Mac and don’t have a Windows machine available at the moment, so that I can’t use that InstantWP file at the moment ??

A different idea: Can you maybe email me a JSON export of the table in question? I can then import that into my test site. Maybe I can spot something there.

Regards,
Tobias

Hi Tobias !
I had pretty much things to do these last weeks between travelling and working on my website, as well as searching for a new host and start the migration and tests there.

I made here a short break, as i’m currently correcting the tables in the live version to provide you with an url where you’ll be able to vizualize for yourself the problem, and maybe proceed with the investigation.

Please have a look at my post urgences, which hosts several tables with this macron problem.

As you can see, this problem occurs only when using macrons within the tables in a expand content element from Visual Composer.

Thanks in advance for your advices.

Hi,

hmm, here’s a screenshot of the table on that page (with Chrome on Linux):
https://imgur.com/1oNxUSr

From what I can see, the makrons are working?
They are also showing on Firefox for me.

In any case, TablePress is printing them to the page correctly, so if they look different from what they should, this must be a font or rendering issue, due to some CSS or how the browser interprets it.

Regards,
Tobias

Thank you for your quick answer, Tobias. =)

Well, not exactly. If you have a closer look at the screenshot, you’ll notice that the macron caracters are bigger as the ‘normal’ ones, which is the inverse situation as on my laptop or my wife’s one (i just had a look at her to be sure). We use both firefox browser, but i also checked with Explorer, and encountered the same phenomen, with macrons decreasins their size and changing somehow their font family, which is kinda weird.

Now concerning any CSS changes, the only one i made are those below, which -following your plugin tips- i integrated the options frontend from the plugin :

.tablepress thead th,
.tablepress tfoot th {
	background-color: #1abc9c;
}

.tablepress thead .sorting_asc,
.tablepress thead .sorting_desc,
.tablepress thead .sorting:hover {
	background-color: #fff;
}

.tablepress,
.tablepress tr,
.tablepress tbody td,
.tablepress thead th,
.tablepress tfoot th {
	border: none;
	margin-bottom: 0 !important;
	font-family: lato;
	font-size: 16px;
	color: #393939;
	line-height: 1.2;
	padding: 4px;
}

Tobias,

Sorry for having bothering you with this problem, as i -thank to your answer and the fact i pick up this copy-paste from the options frontend- just found out what was the cause of this disfunction.

As you notice, the font-family indicates ‘lato’ which is… the font i used in the previous version of the site (it’s Noto Sans now). I assumed i didn’t noticed it before, because just the macrons were affected (both fonts look pretty similar), and probably this font family doesn’t include specific caracters like macron, so it picks up whatever font can be used from the system by default, explaining the size/family change.

Well, my apologies to you for having wasted your time, and my thumbs up for the good job and patience you demonstrated. =)

Tablepress is in deed a very good and free plugin, and it’s very useful to me, as the solutions for tables within VC are not matching my needs.

Again, a big thanks to you, and sorry for my mistake !

Have a nice evening, Tobias !

Hi,

nice catch! Yes, that’s basically what I meant, I just could express it. The new font then likely does not contain those macron characters and falls back to a different font.
Good to hear that you now found the cause! ??

Best wishes,
Tobias

P.S.: In case you haven’t, please rate TablePress here in the plugin directory. Thanks!

Yep, i’m glad having at least one of the 1000 go-from-local-to-live-version little ‘surprises’ solved ! ^^

I’m going to write a little review as you requested for sure, it’s the least i can do.

Hi,

thanks, I really appreciate it!

Best wishes,
Tobias