Lots of decline payments
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Hello,
I’m opening a new topic about the recurring problem of CB payments rejected by Stripe (“do not honor” code).
For some yearly renewal orders, i have “transaction_not_allowed”
This problem does not occur on all payments but it is starting to be very annoying as we lost money.
One of our customers report this incident to his bank and the bank say: “Your site does not ask for the usual security validation that’s why it blocks”
So I wonder if the payment rules for 3d secure are sufficient or if it’s coming from your plugin? Actually in Stripe, it set only with this option “Require 3DS if 3D Secure is required for the card”
What’s your point of view about adding or switching to “Require 3DS if 3D Secure is recommended for the card Disabled” or “Require 3DS if 3D Secure is supported for the card Disabled”.
Thanks
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The customer say that he doesn’t see the 3d secure modale popup. So either this is due to the module and a JS/css problem, or there is a missing setting on stripe that requires additional verification for some bank cards.
Hello,
Sorry for the inconvenience.
For the most part, payment declines are generic, there are several reasons and security levels to process payments properly and not only 3DS.
Stripe triggers 3DS automatically if “required” by a regulatory mandate.
What’s your point of view about adding or switching to “Require 3DS if 3D Secure is recommended for the card Disabled” or “Require 3DS if 3D Secure is supported for the card Disabled”.
You can enable them if that fits your needs, they are options to fit your needs and to help your customers to process payments securely.
May I ask do these declined payments have something in common? Are they from a specific location? Are they from a specific card bard?
Can you provide the error logs from
WooCommerce > Status > Logs
Be sure toRedact
any sensitive information.Also, can you send us a copy of your site’s system status report? You can find that at:
WooCommerce > Status > Get system report
Let us know, thanks.
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This reply was modified 2 years, 11 months ago by
Igor H.
Hello @ihereira , that the point, i don’t know if that’s fit our need.
In theory, with the option “Require 3DS if 3D Secure is required for the card”, the customer’s bank should offer him the 3d secure option, we agree? If this window does not appear on the customer’s side even though the bank asks for it, it means that there is a problem in the checkout and not in one of the Stripe options mentioned in my previous message?
Adding one of its additional rules would help to make the 3ds window appear?
system report:
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May I ask do these declined payments have something in common? Are they from a specific location? Are they from a specific card bard?
For single order, usually, i see the “not honor” information and for renewal orders i see “transaction_not_allowed” and i don’t understand why it can happen for renewal orders too
The fact is that there is no common elements really, some users have a master card, some have a visa, sometime same country as the shop , sometime not.
If i enable Require 3DS if 3D Secure is recommended for the card Disabled” or “Require 3DS if 3D Secure is supported for the card Disabled”, what will happen with renewal orders?
Additionnal information.
– Stripe advice us few months ago to disable CVC verification. Do you think it can be related to this issue?
– We also use Redis (can be usefull info)
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This reply was modified 2 years, 11 months ago by
alpha2.
Here is few cases we have.
For exemple this one is a renewsal order belonging to a subscription (running woocommerce subscription). No problem with this subscription and its renewals payments for months. This month, the payment failed.
2022-04-15T09:09:17+00:00 DEBUG ====Stripe Version: 6.3.0==== ====Start Log==== payment_intents request: Array ( [amount] => 1987 [currency] => eur [description] => our store - Commande XXX [metadata] => Array ( [customer_name] => customer name [customer_email] => customer email [order_id] => XXX [site_url] => https://www.xxx.fr [payment_type] => recurring ) [payment_method_types] => Array ( [0] => card ) [off_session] => true [confirm] => true [confirmation_method] => automatic [statement_descriptor] => our store [customer] => CUS_XXX [source] => src_xxx [shipping] => Array ( [name] => customer name [address] => Array ( [line1] => XXX [line2] => [city] => XXX [country] => FR [postal_code] => XXX [state] => ) ) ) ====End Log==== 2022-04-15T09:09:21+00:00 DEBUG ====Stripe Version: 6.3.0==== ====Start Log==== Could not find order via charge ID: ch_XXX ====End Log==== 2022-04-15T09:09:21+00:00 DEBUG ====Stripe Version: 6.3.0==== ====Start Log==== Error: stdClass Object ( [error] => stdClass Object ( [charge] => ch_XXX [code] => card_declined [decline_code] => generic_decline [doc_url] => https://stripe.com/docs/error-codes/card-declined [message] => Your card was declined. [payment_intent] => stdClass Object ( [id] => pi_xxx [object] => payment_intent [amount] => 1987 [amount_capturable] => 0 [amount_received] => 0 [application] => [application_fee_amount] => [automatic_payment_methods] => [canceled_at] => [cancellation_reason] => [capture_method] => automatic [charges] => stdClass Object ( [object] => list [data] => Array ( [0] => stdClass Object ( [id] => ch_XXX [object] => charge [amount] => 1987 [amount_captured] => 0 [amount_refunded] => 0 [application] => [application_fee] => [application_fee_amount] => [balance_transaction] => [billing_details] => stdClass Object ( [address] => stdClass Object ( [city] => [country] => [line1] => [line2] => [postal_code] => [state] => ) [email] => customer email [name] => customer name [phone] => ) [calculated_statement_descriptor] => our store [captured] => [created] => 1650013758 [currency] => eur [customer] => CUS_XXX [description] => our store - Commande XXX [destination] => [dispute] => [disputed] => [failure_balance_transaction] => [failure_code] => card_declined [failure_message] => Your card was declined. [fraud_details] => stdClass Object ( ) [invoice] => [livemode] => 1 [metadata] => stdClass Object ( [customer_name] => customer name [customer_email] => customer email [order_id] => XXX [site_url] => https://www.xxx.fr [payment_type] => recurring ) [on_behalf_of] => [order] => [outcome] => stdClass Object ( [network_status] => declined_by_network [reason] => generic_decline [risk_level] => normal [seller_message] => The bank did not return any further details with this decline. [type] => issuer_declined ) [paid] => [payment_intent] => pi_xxx [payment_method] => src_xxx [payment_method_details] => stdClass Object ( [card] => stdClass Object ( [brand] => visa [checks] => stdClass Object ( [address_line1_check] => [address_postal_code_check] => [cvc_check] => ) [country] => FR [exp_month] => 9 [exp_year] => valide year [fingerprint] => XXX [funding] => debit [installments] => [last4] => XXX [mandate] => [network] => visa [three_d_secure] => [wallet] => ) [type] => card ) [receipt_email] => [receipt_number] => [receipt_url] => [refunded] => [refunds] => stdClass Object ( [object] => list [data] => Array ( ) [has_more] => [total_count] => 0 [url] => /v1/charges/ch_XXX/refunds ) [review] => [shipping] => stdClass Object ( [address] => stdClass Object ( [city] => XXX [country] => FR [line1] => XXX [line2] => [postal_code] => XXX [state] => ) [carrier] => [name] => customer name [phone] => [tracking_number] => ) [source] => stdClass Object ( [id] => src_xxx [object] => source [amount] => [card] => stdClass Object ( [exp_month] => 9 [exp_year] => valide year [last4] => XXX [country] => FR [brand] => Visa [funding] => debit [fingerprint] => XXX [three_d_secure] => optional [name] => [address_line1_check] => [address_zip_check] => [cvc_check] => [tokenization_method] => [dynamic_last4] => ) [client_secret] => src_client_secret_ [created] => 1650013760 [currency] => [customer] => CUS_XXX [flow] => none [livemode] => 1 [metadata] => stdClass Object ( ) [owner] => stdClass Object ( [address] => [email] => customer email [name] => customer name [phone] => [verified_address] => [verified_email] => [verified_name] => [verified_phone] => ) [statement_descriptor] => [status] => chargeable [type] => card [usage] => reusable ) [source_transfer] => [statement_descriptor] => our store [statement_descriptor_suffix] => [status] => failed [transfer_data] => [transfer_group] => ) ) [has_more] => [total_count] => 1 [url] => /v1/charges?payment_intent=pi_xxx ) [client_secret] => pi_xxx_secret_xxx [confirmation_method] => automatic [created] => 1650013757 [currency] => eur [customer] => CUS_XXX [description] => our store - Commande XXX [invoice] => [last_payment_error] => stdClass Object ( [charge] => ch_XXX [code] => card_declined [decline_code] => generic_decline [doc_url] => https://stripe.com/docs/error-codes/card-declined [message] => Your card was declined. [source] => stdClass Object ( [id] => src_xxx [object] => source [amount] => [card] => stdClass Object ( [exp_month] => 9 [exp_year] => valide year [last4] => XXX [country] => FR [brand] => Visa [cvc_check] => pass [funding] => debit [fingerprint] => XXX [three_d_secure] => optional [name] => [address_line1_check] => [address_zip_check] => [tokenization_method] => [dynamic_last4] => ) [client_secret] => src_client_secret_ [created] => 1634288608 [currency] => [customer] => CUS_XXX [flow] => none [livemode] => 1 [metadata] => stdClass Object ( ) [owner] => stdClass Object ( [address] => [email] => customer email [name] => customer name [phone] => [verified_address] => [verified_email] => [verified_name] => [verified_phone] => ) [statement_descriptor] => [status] => chargeable [type] => card [usage] => reusable ) [type] => card_error ) [livemode] => 1 [metadata] => stdClass Object ( [customer_name] => customer name [customer_email] => customer email [order_id] => XXX [site_url] => https://www.xxx.fr [payment_type] => recurring ) [next_action] => [on_behalf_of] => [payment_method] => [payment_method_options] => stdClass Object ( [card] => stdClass Object ( [installments] => [mandate_options] => [network] => [request_three_d_secure] => automatic ) ) [payment_method_types] => Array ( [0] => card ) [processing] => [receipt_email] => [review] => [setup_future_usage] => [shipping] => stdClass Object ( [address] => stdClass Object ( [city] => XXX [country] => FR [line1] => XXX [line2] => [postal_code] => XXX [state] => ) [carrier] => [name] => customer name [phone] => [tracking_number] => ) [source] => [statement_descriptor] => our store [statement_descriptor_suffix] => [status] => requires_payment_method [transfer_data] => [transfer_group] => ) [source] => stdClass Object ( [id] => src_xxx [object] => source [amount] => [card] => stdClass Object ( [exp_month] => 9 [exp_year] => valide year [last4] => XXX [country] => FR [brand] => Visa [cvc_check] => pass [funding] => debit [fingerprint] => XXX [three_d_secure] => optional [name] => [address_line1_check] => [address_zip_check] => [tokenization_method] => [dynamic_last4] => ) [client_secret] => src_client_secret_ [created] => 1634288608 [currency] => [customer] => CUS_XXX [flow] => none [livemode] => 1 [metadata] => stdClass Object ( ) [owner] => stdClass Object ( [address] => [email] => customer email [name] => customer name [phone] => [verified_address] => [verified_email] => [verified_name] => [verified_phone] => ) [statement_descriptor] => [status] => chargeable [type] => card [usage] => reusable ) [type] => card_error ) ) ====End Log====
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This reply was modified 2 years, 11 months ago by
alpha2.
Another log from a single order (no subscription) with code do not honor.
For this one, the customer ask her bank and the bank reply ? Your site does not ask for the usual security validation that’s why it blocks”. The customer again next day and told us that she was not able to see the modal 3dsecure
2022-04-14T13:41:57+00:00 DEBUG ====Stripe Version: 6.0.0==== ====Start Log==== customers/cus_XXX request: Array ( [email] => [email protected] [description] => Nom : NAME, Nom d’utilisateur : username [name] => NAME [metadata] => Array ( ) [preferred_locales] => Array ( [0] => fr-FR ) ) ====End Log==== 2022-04-14T13:41:58+00:00 DEBUG ====Stripe Version: 6.0.0==== ====Start Log==== Info: Begin processing payment for order order_XXX for the amount of 126.90 ====End Log==== 2022-04-14T13:41:58+00:00 DEBUG ====Stripe Version: 6.0.0==== ====Start Log==== payment_intents request: Array ( [source] => src_XXX [amount] => 12690 [currency] => eur [description] => STORE NAME - Commande order_XXX [metadata] => Array ( [customer_name] => NAME [customer_email] => [email protected] [order_id] => order_XXX [site_url] => https://www.xxx.fr ) [capture_method] => automatic [payment_method_types] => Array ( [0] => card ) [customer] => cus_XXX [statement_descriptor] => STORE NAME [shipping] => Array ( [name] => NAME [address] => Array ( [line1] => address [line2] => [city] => XXX [country] => FR [postal_code] => XXX [state] => ) ) ) ====End Log==== 2022-04-14T13:41:58+00:00 DEBUG ====Stripe Version: 6.0.0==== ====Start Log==== Stripe PaymentIntent pi_XXX initiated for order order_XXX ====End Log==== 2022-04-14T13:41:59+00:00 DEBUG ====Stripe Version: 6.0.0==== ====Start Log==== payment_intents/pi_XXX/confirm request: Array ( [source] => src_XXX ) ====End Log==== 2022-04-14T13:42:03+00:00 DEBUG ====Stripe Version: 6.0.0==== ====Start Log==== Error: stdClass Object ( [error] => stdClass Object ( [charge] => ch_xxx [code] => card_declined [decline_code] => do_not_honor [doc_url] => https://stripe.com/docs/error-codes/card-declined [message] => Your card was declined. [payment_intent] => stdClass Object ( [id] => pi_XXX [object] => payment_intent [amount] => 12690 [amount_capturable] => 0 [amount_received] => 0 [application] => [application_fee_amount] => [automatic_payment_methods] => [canceled_at] => [cancellation_reason] => [capture_method] => automatic [charges] => stdClass Object ( [object] => list [data] => Array ( [0] => stdClass Object ( [id] => ch_xxx [object] => charge [amount] => 12690 [amount_captured] => 0 [amount_refunded] => 0 [application] => [application_fee] => [application_fee_amount] => [balance_transaction] => [billing_details] => stdClass Object ( [address] => stdClass Object ( [city] => XXX [country] => FR [line1] => address [line2] => [postal_code] => XXX [state] => ) [email] => [email protected] [name] => NAME [phone] => ) [calculated_statement_descriptor] => STORE NAME [captured] => [created] => 1649943720 [currency] => eur [customer] => cus_XXX [description] => STORE NAME - Commande order_XXX [destination] => [dispute] => [disputed] => [failure_balance_transaction] => [failure_code] => card_declined [failure_message] => Your card was declined. [fraud_details] => stdClass Object ( ) [invoice] => [livemode] => 1 [metadata] => stdClass Object ( [customer_name] => NAME [customer_email] => [email protected] [order_id] => order_XXX [site_url] => https://www.xxx.fr ) [on_behalf_of] => [order] => [outcome] => stdClass Object ( [network_status] => declined_by_network [reason] => do_not_honor [risk_level] => normal [seller_message] => The bank returned the decline code <code>do_not_honor</code>. [type] => issuer_declined ) [paid] => [payment_intent] => pi_XXX [payment_method] => src_XXX [payment_method_details] => stdClass Object ( [card] => stdClass Object ( [brand] => visa [checks] => stdClass Object ( [address_line1_check] => [address_postal_code_check] => [cvc_check] => unavailable ) [country] => FR [exp_month] => XX [exp_year] => 2024 [fingerprint] => xxx [funding] => debit [installments] => [last4] => xxx [mandate] => [network] => visa [three_d_secure] => [wallet] => ) [type] => card ) [receipt_email] => [receipt_number] => [receipt_url] => [refunded] => [refunds] => stdClass Object ( [object] => list [data] => Array ( ) [has_more] => [total_count] => 0 [url] => /v1/charges/ch_xxx/refunds ) [review] => [shipping] => stdClass Object ( [address] => stdClass Object ( [city] => XXX [country] => FR [line1] => address [line2] => [postal_code] => XXX [state] => ) [carrier] => [name] => NAME [phone] => [tracking_number] => ) [source] => stdClass Object ( [id] => src_XXX [object] => source [amount] => [card] => stdClass Object ( [exp_month] => XX [exp_year] => 2024 [last4] => xxx [country] => FR [brand] => Visa [cvc_check] => unavailable [funding] => debit [fingerprint] => xxx [three_d_secure] => optional [name] => [address_line1_check] => [address_zip_check] => [tokenization_method] => [dynamic_last4] => ) [client_secret] => src_client_secret_xxx [created] => 1649943722 [currency] => [flow] => none [livemode] => 1 [metadata] => stdClass Object ( ) [owner] => stdClass Object ( [address] => stdClass Object ( [city] => XXX [country] => FR [line1] => address [line2] => [postal_code] => XXX [state] => ) [email] => [email protected] [name] => NAME [phone] => [verified_address] => [verified_email] => [verified_name] => [verified_phone] => ) [statement_descriptor] => [status] => consumed [type] => card [usage] => reusable ) [source_transfer] => [statement_descriptor] => STORE NAME [statement_descriptor_suffix] => [status] => failed [transfer_data] => [transfer_group] => ) ) [has_more] => [total_count] => 1 [url] => /v1/charges?payment_intent=pi_XXX ) [client_secret] => pi_XXX_secret_xx [confirmation_method] => automatic [created] => 1649943718 [currency] => eur [customer] => cus_XXX [description] => STORE NAME - Commande order_XXX [invoice] => [last_payment_error] => stdClass Object ( [charge] => ch_xxx [code] => card_declined [decline_code] => do_not_honor [doc_url] => https://stripe.com/docs/error-codes/card-declined [message] => Your card was declined. [source] => stdClass Object ( [id] => src_XXX [object] => source [amount] => [card] => stdClass Object ( [exp_month] => XX [exp_year] => 2024 [last4] => xxx [country] => FR [brand] => Visa [address_line1_check] => unchecked [address_zip_check] => unchecked [cvc_check] => unavailable [funding] => debit [fingerprint] => xxx [three_d_secure] => optional [name] => [tokenization_method] => [dynamic_last4] => ) [client_secret] => src_client_secret_xxx [created] => 1649943715 [currency] => [flow] => none [livemode] => 1 [metadata] => stdClass Object ( ) [owner] => stdClass Object ( [address] => stdClass Object ( [city] => XXX [country] => FR [line1] => address [line2] => [postal_code] => XXX [state] => ) [email] => [email protected] [name] => NAME [phone] => [verified_address] => [verified_email] => [verified_name] => [verified_phone] => ) [statement_descriptor] => [status] => consumed [type] => card [usage] => reusable ) [type] => card_error ) [livemode] => 1 [metadata] => stdClass Object ( [customer_name] => NAME [customer_email] => [email protected] [order_id] => order_XXX [site_url] => https://www.xxx.fr ) [next_action] => [on_behalf_of] => [payment_method] => [payment_method_options] => stdClass Object ( [card] => stdClass Object ( [installments] => [mandate_options] => [network] => [request_three_d_secure] => automatic ) ) [payment_method_types] => Array ( [0] => card ) [processing] => [receipt_email] => [review] => [setup_future_usage] => [shipping] => stdClass Object ( [address] => stdClass Object ( [city] => XXX [country] => FR [line1] => address [line2] => [postal_code] => XXX [state] => ) [carrier] => [name] => NAME [phone] => [tracking_number] => ) [source] => [statement_descriptor] => STORE NAME [statement_descriptor_suffix] => [status] => requires_payment_method [transfer_data] => [transfer_group] => ) [source] => stdClass Object ( [id] => src_XXX [object] => source [amount] => [card] => stdClass Object ( [exp_month] => XX [exp_year] => 2024 [last4] => xxx [country] => FR [brand] => Visa [address_line1_check] => unchecked [address_zip_check] => unchecked [cvc_check] => unavailable [funding] => debit [fingerprint] => xxx [three_d_secure] => optional [name] => [tokenization_method] => [dynamic_last4] => ) [client_secret] => src_client_secret_xxx [created] => 1649943715 [currency] => [flow] => none [livemode] => 1 [metadata] => stdClass Object ( ) [owner] => stdClass Object ( [address] => stdClass Object ( [city] => XXX [country] => FR [line1] => address [line2] => [postal_code] => XXX [state] => ) [email] => [email protected] [name] => NAME [phone] => [verified_address] => [verified_email] => [verified_name] => [verified_phone] => ) [statement_descriptor] => [status] => consumed [type] => card [usage] => reusable ) [type] => card_error ) ) ====End Log====
Hey @neoseeyou,
Thanks for pulling together all of this information. To serve you best, please open up a support ticket at WooCommerce.com. We have access to tools there that aren’t available in the forums to help with this.
https://woocommerce.com/my-account/create-a-ticket/
Please make sure to include a link to this forum thread in your ticket.
Thanks!
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