Keeping the wrapper from the header section?

Looking at the timestamps on the posts you may have viewed it before I updated the CSS file. It’s updated now.

“Sorry, but I’m not seeing that you made any changes.”

Removed footer image from footer area, moved it to the bottom of the page section like it was originally. Added the new ‘clearA’ CSS, but not sure where the other code (<br class=”clearA” />) goes in the index.php file. We tried several places, but none worked.

Have you tried validating? You’ve got missing closing tags, and double ID’s – that right there will screw you up *big* time.

Holly smolly!!!! We didn’t touch any of those areas so there from the original theme. Seeing this makes me want to just use a different theme because who knows what other landmines might be lurking in their code ?? We’ll fix those areas for now and if it still doesn’t work then we’ll just try another theme.

THANKS doodlebee for the link ??

Every one of those XHTML errors were from plugins. We have deactivated all plugins and the page is now validating. Same footer problem as before.

Okay web – I’m just confused now. You’ve made so many changes to the site that I’m not even sure what the problem is now. The footer text is centered, and the background image is missing (not in the stylesheet) – I see that you’ve deliberately removed the image for some reason haven’t figured out yet.

So, here’s a suggestion I have for you. In all honesty, this isn’t really a WordPress issue. It’s a design issue. What I recommend is that you take your design, remove the WordPress code, and get the design to do whatever it is that you want it to do. Ignore the “WordPress” part of it for now.

Once you get the site laid out exactly how you want it, then break the layout up into chunks: header, sidebar, footer – and call then into the index.php file. If you look at it – it should still look exactly the same, just blank. If it doesn’t, then you know the issue is somewhere in one of those files. If it looks fine, then add in the loop stuff for the content. If it still looks fine, then slowly add in the WordPress-related CSS one section at a time to see where the issue lies.

I know that’s the best advice I can give you – I can’t say much else.

“You’ve made so many changes to the site that I’m not even sure what the problem is now.”
Same original issue as before, when we place the footer in the page (or wrapper) it hides behind the page (or wrapper). Hope I explained that right ?? When the site first loads you can see the footer image appear, so we know it is there, but then the wrapper covers it up (the footer image only appears for a second or two, so you’ve got to be quick if you want to see it).

Now if we try a different approach and we remove the footer from the wrapper section, and we place it in the footer section we have a different problem. The footer does shows up just like it’s supposed to, text aligns up good, all is fine, BUT it is left aligned, and no matter what we try to do it won’t center ?? It should be so simple to center this image, but no matter what we do it simply doesn’t center. That tells us that something preceding it must be blocking it, but there again we looked and we found nothing wrong ??

So basically, if we put the footer in one section we have one issue (image gets covered up) and if we place it in a different section the first problem gets fixed – but then we have another problem (left aligned). That’s basically all we’re trying to fix now. We’re just trying to have a centered (visible) footer. We’ve tried tons of CSS tricks. None worked. We’ve had others very well versed in CSS also look at it. They scratched their heads, said “that’s weird” and gave up. Anyway it’s just frustrating because it’s probably something so simple that’s being overlooked.

“the background image is missing”
See above ??

“I see that you’ve deliberately removed the image for some reason”
See above ??

“this isn’t really a WordPress issue.”
We agree.

Oh well thanks for giving it your best shot, we do appreciate all of the time you’ve devoted to it ??

(the footer image only appears for a second or two, so you’ve got to be quick if you want to see it).

But…that’s the thing. I looked at your CSS file, and *there is no image for the footer section*. None. Your footer has absolutely *no* call for an image in the background. That’s why none is appearing. So if it *is* appearing, even for a brief moment, I find that amazing.

You must have changed something form the last time I posted, because it’s there now, and it’s centered. But when I posted that last one – there was no footer image in the div, and there was no image set in the background for the CSS.

Whatever you did, glad you got it sorted.

“Your footer has absolutely *no* call for an image in the background.”
That’s correct. We moved it to the bottom of the wrapper (page) section. We wanted it in the footer section, but nothing would make it center, so it was suggested in another thread that we move it.

“Whatever you did, glad you got it sorted.”
Thank you doodlebee.