• Resolved ulim

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    I just opened my site with Safari 14 for the first time and it looks wrong – everything pushed to the left instead of centered. I don’t have any newer versions of Safari for testing, but version 14 is from 2021, so not all that old.

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  • Hello @ulim

    As you probably already know, Safari was once really lagging behind modern web technologies, so they have made a lot of changes with each version, bringing it in line with the others. Sadly, it is not possible to support Safari 14, as it lacks a lot of the foundations that are currently used in today’s web. Plus, Safari 14 came out in 2020 which would make it 5 years old in a few months.

    I’m really sorry, but as that version is quite limited, we will not be able to implement support for it. It would be recommended to upgrade your browser and OS to the latest version, as you will not only get the latest features but security fixes as well. ??

    Thanks.

    Thread Starter ulim

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    Well, if I upgrade my OS and browser, it won’t help my visitors that are using older hardware. What’s more, they aren’t even aware of the problem and how could they? Safari 14 was released on September 16th 2020, so it has not even turned four years old. I think we all should make a much better effort to create sustainable products. Do not trash the old hardware, if it still works – albeit with an older OS. It saddens me to see an unreflected throwaway mindset. Also, in many developing countries older hardware is being recycled – don’t lock out these users is my opinion.

    • This reply was modified 2 months, 3 weeks ago by ulim.

    Hello @ulim

    I’m really sorry, but I do not agree with you here. As you already know, technology advances very fast, offering new opportunities to build something even better. Supporting old software would mean that we wouldn’t be able to innovate and we would be stuck with a specific feature set.

    And as a side note on what you’re saying – nobody is trashing any old hardware. 90% of the Macs that support Big Sur can also update to Monterey which is more supported and has a more up to date version of Safari. It is the user’s responsibility to keep their software as updated as possible.

    Hope this clears things up!

    Thanks.

    Thread Starter ulim

    (@ulim)

    Hi @cteduard

    you don’t have to agree with me, but you are kidding yourself if you really think that you are not trashing old hardware. A large number of Macs does not support any OS beyond Mojave and thus are stuck with Safari 14. And many newer Macs could theoretically be upgraded beyond Mojave, but 32 bit software won’t run on newer OSes than that and so they are stuck as well. There are many 32 bit applications out there that either will either not be updated to 64 bit or the users don’t have the money to pay for the upgrade – think about developing countries here. There is a lot of old hardware being used in Africa etc. and I’m sure those users would love to upgrade, but can’t afford it.

    Granted, the cost of sustainability (i. e. keeping old cars on the road) can become unsustainably high. But we are all called upon to at least make an honest effort. I trust you have looked into this specific issue and deemed it too expensive to fix. But perhaps your position would be more relatable if you communicated those findings.

    Hello @ulim

    I really think that this argument is moot. I could say the exact same thing about Windows PCs. There are a lot of Windows devices running old software such as Windows XP or Windows 7, which are not supported by pretty much any software anymore.

    I’m really sorry, but we will not be able to do anything regarding unsupported software, especially when support has also been dropped by the parent company. Again, supporting these old devices would mean we would have to put a hold on innovation, which is simply not feasible. Think about it for a second – do you think you would still have the same features in WordPress if they were to support such old software? Not even WordPress offers support for these old browsers, so I think you should start with that. ??

    But sure, here’s a little CSS snippet that should make things look a bit better in this old version. However, please note this is still an unsupported state and you may also run into other problems with other softwares.

    article > .entry-content > * {
    margin-left: var(--theme-default-editor, auto);
    margin-right: var(--theme-default-editor, auto);
    }

    Thanks.

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