• Resolved CoolDavidoff

    (@cooldavidoff)


    First off, congratulations to your one-of-a-kind labor of love plugin! Just short of a thousand options, no one is going to attempt to beat you there. ??
    Must have taken you a lifetime to code this. It surely took me half a lifetime to go through the options, lol. Let’s share a good laugh, shall we? ??

    Why I’ve put the review on hold: I’d like to give your plugin high five later, and give you sth much more valuable immediately: detailed feedback/suggestions.

    For a start (cause I am starting with the plugin too):

    1) All your ? and sometimes ! help texts are coded to come up with the website’s popup alert box, correct? This permanent clicking to get the box away is…. nerve-wrecking. And if you felt “you don’t need to click to open help in the first place” then I’d counter “if the help texts weren’t needed why have them there?” ??

    So, all other plugin authors (I know of) use different ways for help texts, none uses those popup alerts. I’d guess the most user-friendly way is how Michael Torbert with his very mature “All in One SEO” does it:
    – a question mark, tagged “Click for help”
    – you have to click it too, yes
    – but: the help text shows up right underneath/next to it
    – this is clever AND user-friendly because:
    – the second-best way (show help on hover) does not allow:
    – putting links in
    – letting users open up all comments and do a ctrl-f page search ??

    (the “open up ALL comments” is a hint: even he doesn’t have that extra button yet, but should)

    2) The current popup alert box code is flawed anyway (I won’t say “error” as I can’t assess that): During the “getting to know wppa+” period … I have the “Settings” page open all the time of course, fully expanded each section, for the reason/tip just mentioned.
    And permanently the browser forces me back to the settings page because that alert box popped up AGAIN saying “[website name] says: undefined”.
    It doesn’t even say WHAT is “undefined”, so it’s an entirely useless and annoying flaw. Enough said. ??

    3) I do NOT suggest you reorganize all settings (and make them consistent, at the moment many references don’t even match your newest table organization…).
    Why NOT suggest it?
    A more systematic and intuitive and consistent structure would surely benefit your plugin yes, but: it would waste your time. I don’t want that. Leave that.

    4) However, what I would suggest: Get rid of all those “options” that you yourself say “strongly discouraged” and such.
    Why waste your (and our) time?

    (unless of course, you aimed to win the wp prize for the plugin with the most options? I doubt that)

    More to come.

    I trust you notice I am trying to help, not criticize. Where it sounds like that, it’s just funny to make it “stick”. ??

    Again, thank you for an amazing labor of love plugin!

Viewing 9 replies - 16 through 24 (of 24 total)
  • Thread Starter CoolDavidoff

    (@cooldavidoff)

    Quickly three more tips/suggestions Jacob:
    – you pop up those numbers under photo albums on the left in wp admin bar, great job! I clicked, reached the photo admin, and thought, why do we have to approve the user comment, likely I missed a setting, no problem.
    Next I noticed approved, pending, spam, and delete you offer but not reply?

    – so I clicked on the photo itself, to get to the comment – it isn’t linked?

    – now I gave up (lol), but remembered sth else, hihi: when users click upload button FROM CAMERA/phone, it default to “take a pic then upload it”. Wondering, how can s.o. click the upload button an get presented with the same choose file dialog as on a computer? I thought, choosing existing photos should be the default. (just my opinion?)

    More to come, the more I explore!

    @everyone: wppa+ is a very promising plugin really! I can’t understand why ANYONE gave it 1 star! Whether you feel it’s “too cumbersome” and the like, or not, 1 star means “utter rubbish”.
    Get straight!

    Plugin Author Jacob N. Breetvelt

    (@opajaap)

    In Table IV-F3 you can select how/if comments must be moderated.

    The comment box is only under the slideshow image, where should i link to? I can only link to a page, not to a photo/slideshow. I did not yet make a backend add comment feature…
    I could link to the photo admin page, but yu can also easily reach the photo on the album admin page in stead of the comments admin page using the Moderate photos link in the menu.

    Apparently you are an iphone user… pity… on android you can select camera or document or gallery. It is not a wppa limitation, but an ios. You can choose to upload existing images from mobile devices by unticking the Camera connect box in Table II-H15

    Plugin Author Jacob N. Breetvelt

    (@opajaap)

    Today or tomorrow i will release version 6.8.01.
    Please update when it is available.
    Please find below ‘enhanced’ readme of the update.
    It will be clear to you what mods are inspired by your remarks. Thanx for that!

    6.8.01 feb 08 2018
    Bug Fixes

    • Fixed layout issues of the album navigator widget and the album / photo admin pages.

    New Features

    • GPS and File tags are now supported in the exif system.<small style=”color:blue;” ><br />After update, the exif data will be recuprerated from the (source)files to reflect the changes made to the exif system. This is done by background processes and may take some time to complete.

    Other Changes

    • Added to the bestof widget: A checkbox to display the sum of the ratings (totvalue), and the option to sort by the sum of the ratings.
    • Bestof shortcode now also supports the display of the sum of the ratings (totvalue="yes"), and the sort option to sort by the sum of the ratings (sortby="totvalue"). The full shortcode is now:
      [<b></b>wppa type="bestof" page="nn" count="nn" display="photo|owner" period="thisweek|lastweek|lastmonth|thismonth|lastyear|thisyear" sortby="maxratingcount|meanrating|ratingcount|totvalue" maxratings="yes|no" meanrat="yes|no" ratcount="yes|no" totvalue="no|yes" linktype="none|owneralbums|ownerphotos|upldrphotos" fontsize="nn" lineheight="nn" height="nn"][/wppa]
      Note: For backward compatibility: the default for displaying the total value is no (totvalue="no") as opposed to the other display options.
    • Exif arrays are now stored as arrays as opposed to multiple items with the same tag id. This enables interpretation and formatting of array value tags.
    • Improved display of help text in settings and photo of the day settings admin pages.
    • Removed obsolete browser specific css.
    • Improved layout and behaviour of frontend upload dialog.
    • The display on wide areas (upload box from upload shortcode, album cover and thumbnail area) is now a table.
    • On iPhone and iPad, when Table II-H15 (Camera connect) is ticked, there will be two buttons, one for file select and one for upload directly from camera.
    • Photo name and description can be set to mandatory input (See Table II-H7 and Table II-H9).
    Thread Starter CoolDavidoff

    (@cooldavidoff)

    “The comment box is only under the slideshow image, where should i link to? I can only link to a page, not to a photo/slideshow.”
    Got it, thanks! (makes it just hard to make comments “live”/”go wild/viral”…)

    I am not iphone user, no, but I notice problems nonetheless…
    “On iPhone and iPad, when Table II-H15 (Camera connect) is ticked, there will be two buttons, one for file select and one for upload directly from camera.”
    Awesome! Will have it tested.

    Other: Now when one clicks a ? on settings page it vanishes, help text showing up underneath. Given that you have now put that button “show all” at the top (works great!) you may want to get rid of the “?, then vanish” alltogether.
    … and instead to make the button a TOGGLE. Right now one cannot go back to a “concise”(lol) list.
    BUT HAVING the help spelled out is super! Eg just needed to find all “modera” (for moderate…), before, no way (your top boxes don’t have it), now: super easy ??

    “Photo name and description can be set to mandatory input (See Table II-H7 and Table II-H9).” Great!

    Well done Jacob! ??

    Thread Starter CoolDavidoff

    (@cooldavidoff)

    Discovered a security issue (among other new things):
    When ticked, your whole default javascript/jquery code shows up in description field, surely no one should see the default CODE in my opinion. (not even sure why a default description needs code…)

    I also just remember that after adding an album fe, one can’t read anything: it seems new album links/names(?) get written at the same place as prior ones… All over each other.

    Continue testing…

    Plugin Author Jacob N. Breetvelt

    (@opajaap)

    Discovered a security issue (among other new things):
    When ticked, your whole default javascript/jquery code shows up in description field, surely no one should see the default CODE in my opinion. (not even sure why a default description needs code…)

    You may enter html in the description field if it is enabled in Table IX-B1.
    If you do not want that, untick IX-B1. The default shows some example html that shows a table with some camera settings (exif data).

    I also just remember that after adding an album fe, one can’t read anything: it seems new album links/names(?) get written at the same place as prior ones… All over each other.

    Can not reproduce this. If you do this on an album cover, it will create a sub-album.

    So, the admin should decide either if he wants a standard description (including automatically filled in exif data like the example, See Table IX-D3) that needs the permissions to have html code in it, and NOT the option for the user to overwrite it (Table II-H9)
    OR
    Enable user fillable description (Table II-H9, optionally mandatory(!)), and disallow html in Table IX-B1 if he finds that this could be a security risk.

    Thread Starter CoolDavidoff

    (@cooldavidoff)

    “Can not reproduce this. ” Shame, because the “text over text” writing still happens, after subalbum was created.
    Also searched YOUR site for info on .mov but nothing, why do you forbid mov files that most people use?
    That aside, I can’t even figure out HOW to upload videos, the admin gives error when trying under upload photos (the only close thing), same at fe.

    by the way, I just remember: did you ever notice? when you are NOT inside wp admin BUT on your site, the typical admin bar at the top (Edit Page etc) DOES show Photo Albums but that cannot be clicked. ??

    “You may enter html in the description field” – no, it’s not about what we “may enter” but what users see, Jacob! “Never show code (any code) to users!” right.

    “The default shows some example html that shows a table with some camera settings (exif data).” No, here it shows jquery commands…! (html is of course UNticked, read above ??

    9D3 is UNchecked (as again the template contains code)

    “Enable user fillable description (Table II-H9, optionally mandatory(!)),”
    IS DONE
    “and disallow html in Table IX-B1 if he finds that this could be a security risk.”
    IS DONE TOO

    Odd

    Plugin Author Jacob N. Breetvelt

    (@opajaap)

    “Can not reproduce this. ” Shame, because the “text over text” writing still happens, after subalbum was created.

    Can still not reproduce. Pls supply a link to show me or a link to a screenshot that shows it. I can not fix imaginary issues.

    HTML-% only supports .mp4, .webm and .ogg. Wppa supports all html-5 supported filetypes.
    See: https://fileinfo.com/extension/mov

    You can convert MOV files to more standard media file formats with various media applications. For example, VLC media player allows you to convert a MOV video to an .MP4 file or a MOV audio file to the .OGG format.

    NOTE: MOV and MP4 files are similar and can both be played by QuickTime. However, MP4 files are recognized as an international standard and are more widely supported than MOV files.

    I can’t even figure out HOW to upload videos, the admin gives error

    Would be nice if you tell me the content of the errormessage.

    by the way, I just remember: did you ever notice? when you are NOT inside wp admin BUT on your site, the typical admin bar at the top (Edit Page etc) DOES show Photo Albums but that cannot be clicked.

    I just verified that the admin bar menu item only appears if there is some subitem that the user has access to.

    “You may enter html in the description field” – no, it’s not about what we “may enter” but what users see, Jacob! “Never show code (any code) to users!” right.
    .
    .
    .
    9D3 is UNchecked (as again the template contains code)

    Will be fixed in 6.8.03 as follows: If the ‘New Photo desc’ contains html tags, it will not show up in the frontend upload dialog. If the user does not overwrite it, it will be applied if IX-D3 is ticked. In this case: do not set the imput as mandatory (the test is before the upload is done, and if it is empty it will be filled with the default, so, ‘mandatory’ would be redundant anyway).

    Plugin Author Jacob N. Breetvelt

    (@opajaap)

    I will close this thread, because my opinion is that all your issues have been addressed by now, except the text over text issue.

    If you can supply me evidence of this (screenshot, link and recipe on how to get it), please open a new thread.

Viewing 9 replies - 16 through 24 (of 24 total)
  • The topic ‘Instead of review (for now)’ is closed to new replies.