Image padding and border issues with WordPress 3.9

EMG:

Thanks! I know I haven’t read many of the posts that followed mine but I’m happy to have gotten to this one because it gave a very good explanation as to why this change was made. An explanation, which I believe maybe should have been posted on the website WP Website since it seems to be the changed that’s affected the most people – in a negative sense, but it doesn’t matter, what I believe or think or opine.

The one thing that confuses me however, is the fact that even with the gods of the interwebs – the “Web Standards” – there still isn’t a VALID reason to have removed this function – unless you’re gearing the change towards developers.

If I was talking this out loud, I would have repeated myself so instead I implore you to read the above statement again. Then read below as if this line where never written.

Otherwise, there would have been no reason to remove the function. There are the ones that say they never used it. Then there are the one that always use it. You have two groups of people. The Standards and the Non Standards. If the change was to uphold The Standards then there shouldn’t even be a plugin made to replace what was Non Standard in the first place. Additionally if the function is there but it’s not being used then it doesn’t go against The Standards, so why I ask again was it removed???

I(we, the Non Standards) will never get an answer, not a real answer. The best one is EMG’s because it actually addresses and gives some reasons, logical ones even, yet it still doesn’t answer the question in full.

The Non Standards just have to resolve ourselves to the fact that there’s been a change and we have to adapt to the change, whether that means making a jump to Weebly, Muse, or Joomla… Or accepting what’s here and learning the ways of the new Web Standards.

It has always been hard to explain a client or content writer why images always get stuck to text. The margin system was not very good but a solution, using the four fields to add the padding its lot better. When an image its at the top left needs right and bottom padding, when its at the top center then: bottom, right and left and so on, please put that back, if possible with four fields: Top, Bottom, right, left. Thank you.

the plugin seems to be the only easy to to do so. i think adding default css to the theme would work for default but sometimes we may want to increase or decrease the padding/margin for many reasons.

Agree, but still thinking that the simpe thibg that this plugin does should be in wordpres default. Th eplugin its a good soultion anyway, thank you.

Just another complain. I’m a writer and I would like to have back the features that I had in advanced image editor.

I don’t know anything about css and I don’t want to know, I’m not IT guy.

Please bring back this functionality urgently

TIA

In the same direction, wide and color frame or a four shadow direction could be also useful, all the CMS interface its to help a content managers ?? just an idea for a non IT guys ??

Thanks to EMG, for taking the time to write and explain, even though I disagree with most of the reasoning. I do still agree with BioSci and idesignyourvision (as well as everyone else that is complaining, far too many to list).
The “but because Web Standards says so” excuse just doesn’t cut it. “Web Standards” is wrong on this one.
I was one of the many who were able to get the plugin fix working on my sites. But if this sort of thing happens again, we are now fully prepared to abandon WP. Just FYI.

the easiest way to do it: insert all your images as you’d normally do without padding or margin. And go to HTML view once all is done. Now copy paste everything into a notepad and do a find and replace for
<img with <img style="margin:10px"> assuming you are giving the same margin to all the images.

This is the easiest way i can think of.

I have nothing particularly constructive to add other than to say that, like many people, this change completely ruined my weekend at a point when I already had no time to begin with. To say I’m frustrated at this would be a grotesque understatement.

You can’t honestly expect people to buy into the intricate defence of the reasoning behind it above. People are using this service because it’s convenient – the minute it stops becoming convenient (and downloading a plugin or faffing about with CSS when you have an incredibly busy schedule is anything but “convenient”) they move on. I no more care about your reasoning than I care about the personal life of a chef in a restaurant who serves me a bad meal – if it stinks, it stinks and it really doesn’t matter why. You don’t stop to ask why something is useless as a consumer you simply give up on it because it no longer gives you what you want.

I always install the Ultimate Tiny MCE plug in which has a neat image “editing” tool (among many other things). But it doesn’t let you pick from the media gallery. So what I tell clients who want to be able to style images is to use “insert media” the usual way, then click the image and instead of clicking the default image edit icon, click the “insert/edit an image” tool in the toolbar.
With the same number of clicks as pre 3.9, here’s what they get:
https://dev.amgtorque.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Untitled.jpg

Here, another unhappy debeloper in wordpress for these critical changes.

Howeber, I can see that wordpress.com (I know is not the same), can or could enjoy these functionalities again. Here, you have a thread where one of staff member show an screenshot.

The thread:
https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/image-border-8?replies=19#post-1776987
The memeber is “ootjosh” and the screenshot posted:
https://cloudup.com/cDpGiExtXff

I hope that these options come back. We can teach to the customer how to write a post to publicsh, but aplying common sense it is not logic, try to teach css, and/or other programming language to them.

@vyonte – I’m not seeing the update you mention. I’m happy that it appears WordPress may be adding the simple image controls back. This was such basic functionality I’m still miffed at why it was removed.

I must say I do like the look of the advanced images controls.

Can anyone confirm that they are seeing the updated / new image style controls as mentioned in the above post?

@keywordguy, you pay attention that these changes are applied to wordpress.com blogs, not to self hosted one.

I checked one of my accounts in wp.com, and I can sure that these options are there.

Ah…thanks @vyonte – I’m wondering if they will add functionality back to self hosted WordPress core.

Please bring these functions back. To not be able to add borders in a simple manner is crazy. Also everyone keeps mentioning that plugin but that plugin does not work. All the support comments for it say it does not work and it did not work for me.