IE support – criticism

  • I’m kind of frustrated that WP seems to have IMO major issues with IE. I read great things about how easy WP is to install, but you have to hack the CSS to make the default theme work? Plus the admin interface doesn’t look right in IE, most notably the fact that the theme editor entry box is off the page to the bottom and the box grows to the right when edited.

    I do appreciate that this is free software, but it really ought to work properly with the browser that 95% of readers will be using. Firefox is a fringe thing for techno people, for the most part. I’m not a complete fool with HTML, PHP and CSS stuff, and hacking is fine for cutomization, but I think the default stuff should work out of the box with IE.

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  • “A good web application needs to work with it.”

    Well, really though, the “default” theme DOES work fine in IE – as far as the stuff that needs to work. *shrug* Bullets don’t really need to work – it’s not as if the blog itself is not working in IE. Bullets and stuff like that are “cosmetic” – they aren’t part of the actual program underpinnings….

    image bullets. Lots of them:
    https://www.stylegala.com/features/bulletmadness/

    Thread Starter mastiff

    (@mastiff)

    podz, thanks for the code. If I use your code, it looks like the >> style bullets will be replaced with circles for all browsers, so a GIF bullet image or something would be needed to make them both render the same. Is that correct?

    Thread Starter mastiff

    (@mastiff)

    podz, I tried your change and now get no bullets at all. I’ll leave it for a while in case you care to take a look. Maybe I’m doing something wrong.

    Y’know, I just re-unzipped the latest distro specifically to look at the “default” theme – which states this in a comment:

    /* Begin Lists

    Special stylized non-IE bullets
    Do not work in Internet Explorer, which merely default to normal bullets. */

    So now I’m wondering why your install-and-IE mix didn’t simply default to normal bullets…. a bit odd, really….

    I might simply try »» in the list declarations if it were me….

    masstiff, who are the non-tech savvy people seeing your admin pages???

    As for the rest of your site, all the WP themes I have seen work fine with IE – although the “classic” theme looks slightly better in Firefox on Linux than it does in IE on Windows (I have not tried other combinations).

    Mastiff: I don’t mean to pile on here since so many of us are anti-IE (as am I) & you clearly prefer IE.

    As recently as a yr. ago Firefox/Mozilla had about 5% of the browser market. Now, the number is closer to 20% & it grows every day. And unless IE 7.0 improves by leaps & bounds & basically works much as Firefox does now then it will continue to lose market share in future.

    I agree with you that WP should work properly in IE for the reasons you state (though I hold my nose saying it). But you should imagine the consternation I feel when I visit a website programmed only for the IE user & which looks a mess when displayed in FF. The programmer has created a site that only works w. a single browser & that’s annoying.

    I think many of us feel that FF is the wave of the future (& present) as far as browsing is concerned. And you make a mistake in dismissing it as only for geeks and technophiles. I don’t have much more than intermediate technical skills at best. Yet, I love my FF.

    The way one should look at FF is that it does so much more for you than IE, but it doesn’t spoon feed you the way IE does. It makes you do some work in installing & configuring the software & maintaining it. But it gives you so much more in return.

    WP is in exactly the same relation to blog providers like Blogger.com or Typepad. THe latter do everything for you but provide you so little in return. In return for a little bit of technical work WP provides so much more.

    If you’re willing to settle for the stripped down version, then perhaps IE or Blogger.com are for you. But if you’re looking for more out of life then FF & WP are the ticket.

    YOu make the same mistake in saying you wouldn’t recommend WP for someone who isn’t a geek. It’s very easy to do a basic install of WP & use it at a basic level if you don’t have sophisticated technical skills. It breaks my heart when I see people settling for blog providers like the ones I listed because they supposedly do everything for you. People who see it that way are selling themselves short & settling for a middling product.

    mastiff, in the theme’s CSS, find the following rules, delete the first one alltogether: that’ll keep CSS-capable Browsers from displaying the little arrows you don’t see in IE. In the second one, replace list-style-type: none; and list-style-image: none; with a bullet of your choice. Good luck!

    Here’s the rules:

    .entry ul li:before, #sidebar ul ul li:before {
    content: "0BB 020";
    }

    #sidebar ul li {
    list-style-type: none;
    list-style-image: none;
    margin-bottom: 15px;
    }

    Oh, I guess I hadn’t seen page number two.

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