How Wicked Folders Relates to Page Attributes

Hi @rwfelty!

The short answer is that there is no relation between Wicked Folders and the page attributes box (i.e. they are completely independent). So, whether or not your users should tag pages in a Wicked Folder and set the appropriate spot in the site’s child/parent hierarchy in the page attributes really depends on what you want to accomplish.

Given that you already have a site hierarchy established, I think it makes sense to continue using the page attributes. Wicked Folders doesn’t alter page permalinks to reflect the folder structure so, assuming you want the page hierarchy reflected in your URLs (e.g. “parent-page/child-page”), you’d need to continue specifying the parent in the page attributes.

In many cases though it’s useful to use Wicked Folders and the page attributes because of the fact that they are independent (i.e. you can create a folder structure that doesn’t necessarily match your site’s page hierarchy). Additionally, folders give you the ability to assign pages to multiple folders (as opposed to being restricted to a single parent page) which can help with organization and make them easier to find. You can also reorganize the folders later on if needed without having to worry about URLs changing.

That said, if your goal is for your folder structure to exactly match your site’s page hierarchy then it would require some duplication of effort like you mentioned and may not be as useful to you.

I hope this helps answer your question! If you need additional clarification or have any other questions, please let me know!

Hi @rwfelty,

One more thought: your question brings up a valid point that there is duplication of effort required if you want the folder structure to display your site’s page hierarchy.

That gives me an idea for a feature. We could create a “Page Hierarchy” dynamic folder that would display your site’s page hierarchy as folders (each parent page would be a folder that, when clicked, shows you the child pages). That would allow you to view your page hierarchy in the folder tree while also being able to create an independent folder structure if necessary/desired.

I’m on vacation at the moment but we’ll plan to add this feature in November when I’m back. Perhaps it will be useful to you?

Thank you so much for replying so quickly! I really appreciate it. Better response than the site developer whom I’ve given up on at this point.

First off, in your first response you’ve given me exactly the information I needed and I’ll be able to proceed with training now with this knowledge. I am gearing up for a large migration and I’ve just started training users. One of the first group’s request was a folder hierarchy that was easier to navigate than WordPress’s page and media library list.

Wicked Folders will fit this bill for both of these. I will be upgrading to the Pro version soon. Now, I have to train users on how to use it, hence my question on Page Attributes.

I’m not sure about your second response but I am interested in it. The developer segregated the backend so that users can only see and work with pages and files in their own divisions. Our agency has 7 divisions. So rather than go multi-site they did a lot of custom coding but Wicked Folders seems to work beautifully well with it since it doesn’t change permalinks or mess with the hiearchy.

I do have one other question though; I could not find any references to this on the forum. I have been using Wicked Folders with Jake Goldman’s Simple Page Ordering plugin and it seems to be working well. I was wondering if you were aware of any issues with this combination I should watch out for.

Hi @rwfelty,

As far as I’m aware, there aren’t any issues with the Simple Page Ordering plugin that you’re referring to.

Hi Wickedplugins!

Hope you’ve had a great vacation! I would really like the Page Hierarchy feature you’re suggesting here. I have a use case for both where the current folder structure is great for organising the content for my editors and by content type (I actually see this more as labels). But it would be great to also have an option to get a folder view based on the actual Page Hierarchy. Are you still thinking of adding this?

Cheers,
Jerry

Hi @jgrietveld,

Yes, we’re working on it! I think we should have it ready around the end of next week.

Hi @jgrietveld!

Just wanted to follow up and let you know that we’ve released an update (2.10.0) that includes this new feature.

We’ve added a new dynamic folder called “Page Hierarchy” which will let you browse your site’s page hierarchy as if each parent page were a folder. Clicking on a folder under “Page Hierarchy” will show you the pages “in” that folder (i.e. pages that are assigned to that parent).

Hope this feature is useful to you! Let me know if we can help with anything else.

Hi @rwfelty and @jgrietveld,

I’m going to mark this topic as resolved but if you have any other questions or issues, please feel free to let us know!