Gemini Question (calling Root!)

bewentril in the Gemini interface the menu bg is in fact a graphic bg1 which needs to be installed in wp-images. That way it will tile all the way down. Assuming you havent *edited* the CSS ?? Put any borders needed on the graphic.

Hhhhmmm… so even if I just want a simple grey background to my menu which goes all the way down the page, I need to add a grey image to my wp-images directory? How do I then define this as my background image for the menu? Sorry to be so dim here, and thanks for the amazingly fast reply. Gemini has otherwise been a delight to work with.

Well the menu bg image is set lower in the z index. If you look at the default Gemini CSS you will see it is in fact in #rap as I recall. That way it tiles all the way down.

Thanks a whole bunch! I’ll give it a try.

Okay, I admit I am totally at a loss! I’ve put a file called bg1 in my wp-images directory (as a jpg not a gif, though I assume that doesn’t matter so long as I get the file name right). My #rap already has this line:
background: #ffffff url(‘wp-images/bg1.gif’) repeat-y right;
When I get rid of the #ffffff and put the right file name in I get that as the background for the main page. What do I put in for the menu background? I have no idea who or what a “z index” is, having less than a month of .css under my belt!

Quick follow-up: I think I’ve got it. There are messy issues re: padding now, but I can play around with that. Thanks!

It always makes me nervous when I see the phrase *get rid of*. That line of code is as it should be for a very good reason. The only thing you should do is change gif to jpg (although I would advise altering the image to gif). Although it is being set in rap it is in fact the menu bg. It is basic CSS positioning. Please do not fiddle with it ??

Put any menu padding in #nav not in #menu or the layout will bork across platform.

Okay, I’ve definitely got it. And actually realizing *how* you’d designed the menu background was a real revelation: this makes perfect sense now and it’s much more elegant than how I had thought it was done. Moving the menu padding to #nav has also solved a long-standing problem for me, so thanks for that unsolicited tip. All very much appreciated!

One resulting problem I just noticed: Is there a way to move my footer lower? Right now it’s hovering slightly above the bottom of the body (though not on my comments page). There’s always one thing left to do!

Well I like my footer to be pixel perfect as some folks know. I know what you are referring to. In my browser it comes and goes. This is a long standing problem – and frankly I am baffled .According to the code it should not do that at all. Go figure. ??

as i recall you must use the .css file from his page
AND use his modified index.php
and in fact you also need to use the bg1.gif you added to your wp-images folder, because the .css file calls for this specific file
here are the instructions
https://www.atthe404.com/wordpress/index.php?p=10

Root: well, I guess I’ll have to learn to live with a pixel’s worth of imperfection… ah well! If anyone else has had any success at least doing things that would hide/obscure this problem I’m all ears. I’ll see what it looks like without borders. (And thanks for the tips Juanso… I seem to be all set with the previous problem.)

Weird… it looks fine in IE, though not in Firefox. Is this a world first?

Root: I notice that your footer looks absolutely fine (dare I say stunningly elegant?) in your own Gemini page, no matter which browser I use. Is there anything particular that got around the problem? Maybe the height of the footer? Nothing I’ve tried has worked (absence or presence of borders, that sort of thing). Not that I’m being driven slowly insane by the fact that it only looks bad in the one good browser out there…