• Hi @savvasha,

    Thanks for sorting the postponed event problem with the Countdown widget – that works fine now. But all these postponed events have caused an old problem to come back.

    About 17 months ago we had a discussion about Events that are past their scheduled date. These past Events displayed “Preview” instead of “Recap”. You determined that this was because I wasn’t adding any results for the Event.

    Unfortunately, cancelled or postponed Events don’t have results and therefore still display “Preview”. As mentioned in the Postponed Event problem I use the article to let my users know about postponement/rescheduling/refunds, etc.. Effectively, this is no longer a Review but a Recap.

    Would you reconsider this status to work on the date of the Event, rather than a requirement for results to be entered? Or is there another workaround?

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  • Plugin Contributor Savvas

    (@savvasha)

    Hi @pilam ,

    I just check it now and it seems that it will show Recap as soon as the date of the event was passed. Ofcourse you can rephrase Recap to whatever you want through SportsPress->Settings->Text.

    Thanks,
    Savvas

    Thread Starter pilam

    (@pilam)

    Hi @savvasha,

    Unfortunately it doesn’t if you don’t have any results added – which will always be the case when an event has been postponed or cancelled.

    Here’s an example of a past, cancelled event showing in the Event List widget. This displays correctly, as it says “Recap”.

    Then when you click on that Recap link and are taken to the Event detail, it reverts to Preview, not a Recap. This only happens when there are no Event results added, which would be the case with a cancelled Event. For the Event detail it appears that Event results are the dependency, not the date.

    Rephrasing Recap in the Settings isn’t a workable solution, as that would change it everywhere and this is the only place I’ve found where it happens.

    Thanks,

    Pilam.

    Plugin Contributor Savvas

    (@savvasha)

    Hmm, can you try a workaround? Create an Event Spec (lets call it “Link”) and use that one to add the link to the article for each match.

    Use something like that <a href="https://google.com/">Review</a>

    Thanks,
    Savvas

    Thread Starter pilam

    (@pilam)

    Hi @savvasha,

    I’m not clear on what you mean. Is the suggestion that I create an additional Event for each match and link to it from the original match? Forgive me if I misunderstand, but I don’t see how that would work.

    I tried creating a link from the Event description to a new page called “Cancelled” but unsurprisingly that had no effect. Somewhere there is a trigger which causes the displayed heading for an Event’s article to change from “Preview” to “Recap” in the Event View, and this happens ONLY after Results have been added to the Event (in my installation that means players results being entered). It should just work as you mentioned in your first response – when the date of the Event is passed. But it doesn’t.

    I trust we’re on the same page here. My premise is that “Preview” implies that the Event has yet to take place. “Recap” implies that the Event has taken place. It should be totally date driven – not reliant upon results being entered. That’s the way it works in the widgets, but it’s wrong in the Event View.

    Thanks,

    Pilam.

    Plugin Contributor Savvas

    (@savvasha)

    Hi @pilam ,

    Let me explain it with more detail.

    You should create an Event Spec (lets call it “Link”) at SportsPress->Configure->Events Specs https://snipboard.io/wkfMma.jpg.

    Doing that, an extra field will be created on each Event called “Link” https://snipboard.io/navOjr.jpg. In this field you can add a piece of code like: <a href="https://google.com/">Review</a>.

    Now, on you Calendar options, deselect Article from Columns and make sure that Specs are selected. https://snipboard.io/zbXAqr.jpg

    Now, in your Event List you will something like that: https://snipboard.io/ZPNHqk.jpg

    Is a bit of hassle, but doing that way you will be able to add whatever link you want, no matter what is the status of the event.

    Thanks,
    Savvas

    Thread Starter pilam

    (@pilam)

    Hi @savvasha,

    OK, I see what you mean. I think we’re talking at cross-purposes though, because that’s way too complicated a solution to what is basically a simple problem.

    I’m not looking to add any more detail or anything like that. It’s simply the erroneous use of the word “Preview” when looking at the detail of a past Event. By definition, a Preview happens before an Event. Displaying something as a “Preview” after the Event has occurred is an oxymoron.

    It might just be a misunderstanding of the meaning of the word if a non-native English speaker did the original coding. It doesn’t make sense to a native English speaker.

    Anyway, I’ve found an alternative solution. I’m doing away with “Preview” and “Recap” in the Text Settings and calling everything “Details”. It’s not ideal, but it makes much more sense than the current language.

    Thanks for your help with this. I’m sorry it took up so much time, but I would urge you to consider changing the code as I suggested, as currently it is semantically incorrect. Users think something’s wrong with the site when they see that.

    Thanks,

    Pilam.

    Plugin Contributor Savvas

    (@savvasha)

    Thread Starter pilam

    (@pilam)

    Hi @savvasha,

    Almost.

    You’ve changed it so that it works correctly for postponed or cancelled events, but it should be the same for all events. IMO it should be a simple test, independent of whether the Event has been postponed/cancelled:

    Is the current date/time before or equal to the Event’s Published date/time? Yes = Preview, No = Recap.

    However, if you wanted to get the terminology strictly correct, the test would be as follows for all Events:

    Is the current date/time before or equal to the Event’s Published date/time? Yes = “Preview”

    Is the current date/time after the Event’s Published date/time and Event Details have been added? Yes = “Recap”, No = “Summary”

    “Recap” should only be used when the Event is over, i.e. completed. Doing it in this way would also help so that if it said “Summary”, the Event was still waiting to have its Details entered.

    Sorry its a long explanation, but the nuances of the words Preview and Recap make it complicated!

    Thanks,

    Pilam.

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