• Ok, ok… I’m overwhelmed and confused. Where to start?!?

    Well, here’s the scoop. I want to host a small blog site for our students. We have our own webhost and they support several blog software options (including WordPress and b2evo). The blog site will be primarily for 13-18 year olds – so the cool factor is definitely high on the priority list. However, slightly higher on the priority list is ease for me!

    I’m not a webmaster. I can learn things that I need to and I’ve put up a few basic pages but I’m all new to blogging and setting up the ability to host blogs on our site. How difficult is it? What do I need to do? I kind of hate to ask this on this forum but for my purposes am I better off using WordPress or b2evo? Do either of them allow multiple authors on one blog? Do they allow a single user to have more than one blog? Do either allow users to “approve” comments before they are posted?

    I’d appreciate any thoughts you may have on the subject. I look forward to your replies! Thanks in advance.

    Sincerely,
    Rachel

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  • Difficulty ?
    I’d say fairly low. You can practice installing into a server a few times anyway and if you have done the – very short – procedure once, I can almost promise you’ll be bored of doing it by the end. It’s that easy to do ??

    Need ?
    You’ll need a setup that has the WP requirements. That’s all.

    WP or b2evo ?
    WP. Why ? It’s cool, and so are we here.

    Multiple users on 1 blog ?
    A blog will allow any number of authors, but (the important bit) they are sharing it. So if they want to joint author, that’s fine. If they want a blog each that looks the same, they need a blog each – completely seperate. Sharing a blog means being able to edit entries – to a point. And given quite when I’ writing this, it could change in a few hours.

    I user have lots of blogs ?
    Oh yes .. I’ve several and most of the regulars here I’d bet run few few blogs.

    Comments approval ?
    Yes they can.

    Use WP. Ask as much as you need to here. You won’t regret it ??

    (I’ll point someone useful at this thread too)

    Thread Starter varaonaid

    (@varaonaid)

    Thanks for your response. I like your attitude! I’m leaning to WP already.

    Can I have both types of blogs? Meaning this: can each student have their own blog w/all the standard permissions that would entail as well as having the ability to post on a “school blog” or some such thing?

    Also, someone told me WP didn’t support multiple blogs? What were they referring to?

    Lastly, how much “control” do I retain as administrator (and the one who’s contracted the web hosting) in terms of editing potentially inappropriate posts (taming language or some such thing)?

    Thanks again for your help!
    Rachel

    Thread Starter varaonaid

    (@varaonaid)

    Oh, forgot to ask. Is there some sort of WP community and larger website the blogs would be a part of or is it merely our little set of student blogs (or can we choose between the two)? Sorry to be such a dumb newbie but how does the community part work?

    Both types ?
    Certainly – you set up one per stdent, then have a main blog which is essentially yours, and you allow them to post on it.

    Multiple blogs.
    Bascially means you install WP once, and you can then use the one install to power numerous other blogs.
    When you have some blogging engines that are hugely complex and you need a manual just to install it, that may well be a benefit. With WP ? just install another blog – it takes moments.

    Control ?
    Total – you can take their blog away. You will need rules, and if your kids are like any other, they will push at them. As you have direct access to the database, you can, at any time, alter the password to one of your choice, you can then edit anything on the blog (as User level 10). you could demote users, promote users. You could just delete the blog – if they can’t take the responsibility then they don’t get the right (sort of thing) but then kids will be kids. And if they want cool plugins, nice themes …… then they’d better play ball nicely ??

    Thread Starter varaonaid

    (@varaonaid)

    That’s really helpful. They will definitely want the cool plugins and groovy themes! That’s a big draw! (they let me know earlier today that they didn’t like a different blog site because it wasn’t “cool” – don’t really remember the name of it). I think it will inspire them to play nicely!

    So now about the whole “community” thing. What is it? Does it exist? How does it work? Would the students feel a part of a larger group (ie like mindsay or some similar site?) or because I’m hosting it on our site would we be a sort of virtual island?

    I’m embarrassed to ask so many questions but I am trying to learn… thanks for your patience!

    Rachel

    Unless your setup can access the wider internet, then yes, a small – but with WP a perfectly equipped – island you would be.

    And asking a lot of questions ?
    “Could try harder”

    ??

    Keep asking !

    If you’re on your own server you’ll have to go that extra mile to connect with blogs outside the immediate group. It’s not like livejournal or mindsay at all, however if you encourage your students to leave interesting comments on other blogs they might be able to extend the community outwards a bit ??

    When WordPress is first installed it has links to all the main developers on the template, that could be a good starting off point for finding other WordPress blogs.

    Hey Podz–

    I think I misunderstand you:

    Multiple blogs.
    Bascially means you install WP once, and you can then use the one install to power numerous other blogs.
    When you have some blogging engines that are hugely complex and you need a manual just to install it, that may well be a benefit. With WP ? just install another blog – it takes moments.

    This kind of sounds like WP can be used to power multiple blogs with a single installation. If that’s the case, then I’m a complete dumb sh**, ’cause I’ve got 10+ WP installations on the same server (sharing only two databases) to do multiple blogs. What did I miss? Or did I indeed misunderstand what you wrote?

    Thread Starter varaonaid

    (@varaonaid)

    Actually, I don’t mind that. They’ve had “interesting adventures” with a larger blog community.

    When you say “access the wider internet” what does that mean? We are obviously online (boy, I’m really feeling the newbie status now!).

    However, I’m guessing that, just like other blog sites, they can choose who views their blogs and could give out their site to other people, correct? Now, would other people with permissions to view their blog have to become a member or something (that’s the way that mindsay site works) or can they just view it?

    Still trying to learn! And asking away…

    dherren – it’s probably me not concentrating.

    If you want install MT, then apparently you can run multiple blogs from that one installation. You do need database(s) though as I understand. I don’t know how because I cannot abide MT, and even when I did play briefly, I could not see the attraction of a multi-blogging system. I still cannot despite many clamouring for it here. Either way, things are interlinked.

    If you install WP, it is as a standalone. Right now, I have a database with one install, up to a database with 4 (I think). I see the advantage as being that they are not interlinked. I can install and delete WP as I need with no worries about inter-dependence.

    WP as it stands now (including 1.5) cannot power more than one site with one install – an install effectively meaning a set of database tables.
    If you try, it will break things.

    It is possible for a user to
    – restrict who can see which posts
    – not sure about categories though….
    – and yes they can restrict who comments

    This may take a bit of setting up – I can’t comment on how easy this stuff is as I don’t use it – but it’s not going to be too tricky for them to do (Them – not you).

    @ varaonaid

    I have setup a user database at my school which caters for for approximately 300 students + staff.

    At the moment it is contained within an intranet and is only using 3 themes. However, as time goes by and the students begin to experiment, I am hoping they may be able to add more and more themes from which to choose. In many ways this makes it just like a multiblog system but is much easier to administrate overall.

    Perhaps email me if you would like to know more ?? Good luck

    Thread Starter varaonaid

    (@varaonaid)

    Maybe I just shouldn’t have paid attention to the post regarding single install/multiple install but, YIKES! I’m confused…

    Will I have to install WP seperately for every blog that I want to create? (or did that post just scare the living daylights out of me!)

    Am I getting in over my head?

    Moderator James Huff

    (@macmanx)

    Thread Starter varaonaid

    (@varaonaid)

    You know, b2e almost swayed me the past few weeks stating that the multiple install of WP would be much more difficult but the preinstall instructions of changing things on my webhost seem quite complex for someone with as little experience as I have and WP actually seems easier and slicker (is that a word?, it should be ?? ).

    OK, again please forgive the newbieness of this question. I’ve read the link above re: single vs multiple database installation. Which one is better and why? Which would you recommend? Is one vastly easier to install that the other (both initially and in the long run).

    Thanks again for your input. I like this place!

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